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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:28 AM
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Default who runs es100 on stock rims? plz help!

just like your opinion please...

in australia we have a really **** tyre range, all good tyres start from 16"
s03, eagle f1, pilot sports, p zero, ecsta mx's etc...

only tyre left for the 15" would be the yokohama es100 since re010 don't exist here anymore

i know that 195/55/15 is the stock tyre size, but i was wondering if the 205/50/15 would be a better choice? or even 205/55 ? (higher ride height cause or scraping issues and also more grip?)i don't mine the speedo to be slightly off

this is because the 205/50 is 8mm smaller in diameter than the 195/55 and i've heard that the side walls of this tyre is sort of soft.
so a slightly shorter side wall would be better?
or would the wider tyre width have less steering response?
or is this such a small difference to matter?

it's currently for daily driving and hopefully futher down the track i might see a few track days (please note i've never used re010 before just a really crap normal tyre kumho's power max 769 (normal street tyre)

on current stock sized tyres which are almost worn out i do barely scrape my driveway, so i'm thinking if i do get 205 over time when they do wear out this may become an issue as well as having an over sized mugen resonator

anyhow just like your opinion on my slight dilemma, im currently on stock height (stock springs and shockers) and i have considered semi slicks, however so they do not last as long and i don't have much money, also we get random rain here in all seasons here in australia melbourne all the time and semi slicks may become an issue

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:31 AM
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you should really search on the topic, but 205 has a few advantages over 195 - the side wall difference, i dont think its going to be huge, but yeah, it will help in response.

the best thing about going for 205 is the higher FD effect, the worst thing is inaccurate mileage. (minor - i think 100 miles = ~ 97 miles actual)
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:33 AM
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iam using 195/55/15,had them for a 6-7months..no problem iam happy with mine. great in rain.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:34 AM
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yeah i've researched already but i just couldn't seem to make a decision...
just wondering if there were any other comments that wasn't in the search

also what is FD?

thanks alot for the input anyhow
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITSUKA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i've researched already but i just couldn't seem to make a decision...
just wondering if there were any other comments that wasn't in the search</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're just going to read the same thing over and over again... great tires, great prices, great dry and wet traction (average)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also what is FD?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Final Drive

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks alot for the input anyhow</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great tires, great prices, great dry and wet traction (average)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I 100% agree on this guy
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:21 AM
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If you can get them in 195/55-15 then get them in that size, eliminate any chance of you not liking them. Pretty simple.

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:21 AM
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ok thx alot guys i guess it's up to me then
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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the ES100's are great for daily driving. I've been using 205/50's w/o any problems on stock supension
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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do u think steering response is not as crisp on the 205?
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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I would bet money that honda put the 195/55-15 on because of the handling
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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thx again bbasso
however honda probably also noted the re010 were a better tyre with stifer side walls

i was really looking forward to the escta mx's u reckonmended... however just found out they just arrived in australia but in 17" and 18" only i waited 3 months to find this out??????

you are always a great help thx
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:09 AM
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waited all that time for bad news... that sucks.

good luck on your tire purchase, be sure to do a write up
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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yeah i sure will
just a tad short on money at the moment... but i'll update you when i do

thx again
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would bet money that honda put the 195/55-15 on because of the handling </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or because they're cheaper [flamesuit on]
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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I would get the 195/55-15. In fact, I'm running that size ES100 on the GS-R in the household. Same wheel size (15x6) as the stock ITR wheels (fewer lugs, but that doesn't affect the tires, of course).

<u>Advantages</u>:

1. Keeps the speedometer and odometer accurate. (They will read high by 1.6 percent with the 205/50-15.)

2. Significantly less expensive (USD61 vs USD75 in the States).

3. Performance differences are pretty insignificant. (Remember, you're talking about a difference in width of only 10 mm.)
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:42 AM
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For daily driving, it's not bad (not great, either). Definately not suggested if you're going to the track.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For daily driving, it's not bad (not great, either). Definately not suggested if you're going to the track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you could try it. As another option, you could get a spare set of wheels, and drive the ES100 on the street, and the Falken RT-215 for the track. And, unlike here in North America, you can get the RT-215 in the stock size 195/55-15! (For example, here.)
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, you could try it. As another option, you could get a spare set of wheels, and drive the ES100 on the street, and the Falken RT-215 for the track. And, unlike here in North America, you can get the RT-215 in the stock size 195/55-15! (For example, here.)
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That's my plan (RT-615's). Only, I'm having a hard time locating 15x7's that are within my budget...
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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i'll let you know tomm. mine are going on in the morning.

(edit) i went with the 195/55 as well.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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205/50 is the same tire height as 195/55
I install tires for a living and discussed this with tire experts before and we're all 100% positive this is accurate.. so go with 205 if you like better dry traction and rougher feel, or go with 195/55 if it rains alot in australia...
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Type R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">205/50 is the same tire height as 195/55
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Not true, go to tirerack and look up the specs and compare. even tho there is only .1 inch difference there is a difference.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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well if your gonna fuss over a .1 inch then i still stand correct imo
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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I'm having a hard time locating 15x7's that are within my budget... </TD></TR></TABLE>

me too! there is nothing out there cheap for us 5 luggers
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not true, go to tirerack and look up the specs and compare. even tho there is only .1 inch difference there is a difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. BTW, those spec charts can have some differences due to rounding. The difference in sidewall height actually calculates to almost two tenths of an inch, not one (more precisely, 0.187 inch). The difference in outer diameter is 1.6 percent, so that is the percentage that the speedometer and odometer will be off.

You can use a tire size calculator like this one to calculate percentage differences between tire sizes.
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