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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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My family is going to Alaska this July so I figured I'd have to kill time on the 9 hour flight.


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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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May i be the 1st to say... SWEET!
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Twist of the Wrist II is an awesome book. I haven't read the other ones yet though.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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You should look into a book called "Total Control" as well. Very good/helpfull book IMO.

Link to the book at B&N

http://search.barnesandnoble.c...itm=4



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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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On my wishlist.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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I concur,

T.O.T.W.2. was an informative book. I didn't agree 100% with Keith Code's style of riding (I still trail brake), but I definately use alot of what he has to say on and off the track. I honestly wouldn't bother with the footnotes, if you ride a sportsbike, you more than likely know the meaning of the words. KC must think that all sportbike riders are dumbasses or something.

I didn't bother reading part one because people say that the material in it is sooooooo basic. Heck, I even thought portions of part two were too basic!

FASTER is the sheeeeit if you like MotoGP. I watched it in the theatres, and couldn't wait for it to come out on DVD.

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Good stuff. You'll finally get introduced to the ever dreaded SR's. Overcome them and you (as well as I) will become MotoGP heros!!!!
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Excellent stuff. There's about an hour - hour and a half long documentary on the second Faster disc about the '03 season, and the first race of the '04 season.

Keith Code has some really good stuff in there, but he's a terrible writer. Just get past that and you're good.

I currently have the Lee Parks book in the bathroom to pass the time. It's also very good, and goes much deeper into hardware than Keith's books.

Another excellent book to pick up is Sport Riding Techniques by Nick Ienatsch.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Faster is a great movie
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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i have all the books except for faster and the dvd of twist of the wrist..... AWESOME STUFF its always good to try to expand your knowledge
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ALL MOTA
I concur,

T.O.T.W.2. was an informative book. I didn't agree 100% with Keith Code's style of riding (I still trail brake), but I definately use alot of what he has to say on and off the track. I honestly wouldn't bother with the footnotes, if you ride a sportsbike, you more than likely know the meaning of the words. KC must think that all sportbike riders are dumbasses or something.

I didn't bother reading part one because people say that the material in it is sooooooo basic. Heck, I even thought portions of part two were too basic!
I love how you think you can criticize Keith Code and the "basics". ALL MOTA must be either a podium finishing professional racer or a ******* idiot. I know what my money is on...

It's basic because they are the fundamentals of riding.

The books aren't meant to teach you how to ride fast. Code says they provide you with "technical data about riding and hints on how to come to grips with yourself and your own riding. How to think for yourself."

Code strongly believes that you can't tell a rider how he should think about their riding or use someone else's technique, it doesn't work. The rider needs to learn how to think for themselves and his book is supposed to be used to build those blocks of self analysis.

I decided to type this up for Apocalypse because it will help him understand where Code is coming from and the direction you should approach his writings from. It's an excerpt from the April 2005 Roadracing World article where John Ulrich interviewed Keith Code:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Roadracing World: Bikes have changed dramatically in 25 years but do sportbike riders and races have different needs now then they used to?

Keith Code: Yes, they need to understand the basics of riding even more now. This is the golden age of motorcycling, any sportbike does exactly what you intend it to do, that's both the good and the bad news. You have to know what the bike wants and what you want out of it. Riding has become very exacting as bikes become more sophisticated. Valentino Rossi has flawless application of his basic riding. He understands what the bike needs, he understands what he wants, he's very exact with those points. What you see is nothing dramatic, few crashes, no pyrotechnics, just super-clean, simple riding. Without the other riders out there to compare, you'd never know how fast he is. So yeah, as the bikes improve we're accelerating back to the basics in riding.

RW: You say "basics," you use that word a lot. What are we talking about here, how to let out the clutch?

Keith Code: That's sub basics. No, for most riders it's a blend of just enough understanding of the mechanics of the bike, just enough understanding of the science and enough theory on riding to be able to think through a problem and solve it. Basics are the glue that holds the riding package together for the rider. You make mistakes, you hit a wall of improvement, you can't go any faster, you aren't smooth. Where should you look for answers? It won't be backing the bike into turns. It won't be getting sideways like Garry McCoy. It won't be how pretty your wheelies are. It will be flawless throttle control, understanding lines, knowing how and why you turn the bike, what inputs are needed and what is not, confidence with speed and traction and stabilizing the bike with debugging chicanes, that's what is going to solve it. How to approach these things are what we generalize as the basics. It's a very exact technology and it's done step-by-step by everyone. There is creative riding but no way to bypass these basic points. It's these points that develop into a real discipline.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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That is a good read you posted Reborn
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My family is going to Alaska this July so I figured I'd have to kill time on the 9 hour flight.


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Buy this....everything else is irrelevant

http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1668.htm
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Buy this....everything else is irrelevant

http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1668.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your link sucks n00b!

I think he wants you to buy the TT documentary

There are some losers asking about you over in GGD luke
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RebornGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your link sucks n00b!

I think he wants you to buy the TT documentary

There are some losers asking about you over in GGD luke</TD></TR></TABLE>

the TT is where its at, really it is.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the TT is where its at, really it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

For crazy people that is. Its more a test of nerves than skills. A track is more a test of skills than nerves.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScareyH22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

For crazy people that is. Its more a test of nerves than skills. A track is more a test of skills than nerves.</TD></TR></TABLE>

crapola. You are telling me that Joey Dunlop, Steve Hislop, David Jeffries etc, etc had no skill and relied on nerves? The TT cuts out novice mistakes, it bites back. So called 'chamos' like Doohan wouldnt go there as they didnt have the space to make errors. The TT is the ultimate test of skill, you make a mistake it bites back.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Buy this....everything else is irrelevant

http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1668.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me know if you need my shipping address... mate.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crapola. You are telling me that Joey Dunlop, Steve Hislop, David Jeffries etc, etc had no skill and relied on nerves? The TT cuts out novice mistakes, it bites back. So called 'chamos' like Doohan wouldnt go there as they didnt have the space to make errors. The TT is the ultimate test of skill, you make a mistake it bites back.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When did I say 'no skill'? I said more ***** over skill.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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Have you got a region free DVD player?
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you got a region free DVD player?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, but I'm pretty sure the link you gave us reverts to the USA site when we try to browse.

Your link throws me to an overview of all the movies.
http://www.dukevideo.com/products/1668.htm

I pick the TT Documentary and get the NTSC version via dukevideousa.com.
http://www.dukevideousa.com/products/1668NV.htm

The domain would lead me to believe these NTSC DVDs can be played in region 1.

Edit via their FAQ page:

NTSC VHS (known as the 'American system')
This format is suitable for playing in the following countries - USA, Japan, Canada, South America & Bahamas. Many Duke VHS and, increasingly, DVD, are available in the NTSC system and can be ordered directly from us.


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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Read those and seen that, multiple times. AWESOME read's and an amazing DVD.
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