would a bad lma cause a car to like sputter at like 1200 rpm? Cause I might get a civic with a b16 but he says the lma is messed up and it sputters between 1200 and 1600 rpm anything after it runs perfect. So i just want to know if its the lma thats causing that.

thanks

 

lost motion assembly?

 

All the LMA's do is hold the mid rocker arm from falling down when not in vtec, shouldnt have anything to do with how the car idles.

 

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I concur.

 

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thanks for the quick replies guys.

but he told me thats the problem with it, i found it kinda wierd, what should i check? cause i really wanna trade him for his car today


Modified by viteg at 12:44 PM 4/25/2005

 

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thanks for the quicj replies guys.

but he told me thats the problem with it, i found it kinda wierd, what should i check? cause i really wanna trade him for his car today</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then hes lying, how well do you know this guy, and how do you know its not a lemon, seeing as its obviously a private sale.

 

well i dont know him at all but he lives right down the road from me.

The car idles fine it only sputters at like 1200-1500 if u rev it soft like ur pulling off but once it passes 2k it runs fine and pull hard. what are the most possible causes? also what else should i check out about the car?

 

Possible causes? Timing?

 

ok how would i check to see if the lma is good or bad? cause i dont wanna get a car with too many problems or with difficult things to fix

 

the lma's are under the valve cover. they look like round circles with a hole in the middle, they are about little over an inch long.

 

ok how do i tell if they are good or bad? also can the car be driven like that IF the lma is bad?

 

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You would have to remove the valve cover, and using your pinky, or a screw driver, push down on the backside of it. If its not smooth going down, or doesnt return smoothly, the LMA is bad and Helms manual recommends replacing it!

 

yeah, u could drive around with it, i have a friend who has a b16a2 and his lma's are bad, and they dont affect the idle but they are noisy, u can hear them... kinda ticking.

 

funny thing is i didn't notice any ticking at all. would the lma cause the cel to come on?

 

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nah i dont think so, least my friends 99 si didnt throw any cells

 

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nah i dont think so, least my friends 99 si didnt throw any cells</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok well his car threw cel but only when u start to drive, if u start it and leave idling it wont come on.

 

check what code it is throwing.

 

I think something else is wrong with the car becuase i tell him i want to pull the codes and he's just telling me he did it already like he doesn't want me to do it for myself to findout somethhing else is wrong with the car.

 

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the dude and his car sounds kinda shady, if i were u I WOULD RUN AWAY FROM HIM

 

I always check the jumper before I buy any hondas. The stores cel's even if the problem has been fixed usually unless it has been reset. I know when i started my car after installing my turbo setup that the cel came on for 02 sensor malfunction, then after i hooked it up the cel went away, jumped it 3 days later, and it gave me a code for my 02 sensor, but with no light.

 

sounds like it obviously has a bad sensor to be throwing a code.
tel him you want to check the codes.after seeing what it is,either have him fix the problem,or deduct the proper amount from the selling price for you to fix it.
i'd say it's probably not a big deal.
the LMAs will not throw a code or cause the problem you have.
if he won't cooperate,tell him to get f%cked.simple as that.
Chris