The ITR was the victim of some vandalism recently, and I'm thinking of taking this opportunity to paint the car a less outrageous color to minimize the chances of theft.

I live in a unique situation right now; my neighborhood is thick with law enforcement and there is no through traffic on my street, so the ITR is safe. However, I know that it won't always be that way.

My question is this, for those of you with any kind of expertise in this are: If the car is painted another ITR color, how much will that lower the resale value? And what if it's a non-ITR color? I'm thinking about anything but yellow at this point for safety's sake, even though I really think PY ITRs look the best.

Anyone got any real opinions on this?

 

If you dont plan on reselling it who cares. Besides they're getting rarer and rarer every day, repaint it, help keep it safe and worry about selling it later.


Basically what I meant to say was, do what you like instead of worrying about how much you might get for it if and when you decide to sell it someday.

 

While one part of me don't say repaint it because all the colors are ITR specific, another part says that they're rare and will be so rare someday that it wont matter if it's another color, although I'd keep it CW, NHBP or FBP. Also, most theives know how to identify and R by the suspesion so I don't know how much good repainting is. If it was me I'd just watch who follows me home, I wouldn't repaint it.

 

Ross I don't know if this is a real opinion, but I'll try.

I have seen many classic autos go for big big bucks, some were full restorations and others were original, but the value of each car depended on the market, supply and demand. But the final price was placed them if deemed valuable by the collectors.

If your car happens to be one of 100 in 15 years from now, the value will be off the hook no matter the color. Yes, have more value if all original but still worth a pretty penny.

Do what it takes to so you can own it with out fear ( or Less). I think if you went with the original Black paint from that year you will be ok...

But does this all matter? If I'm not mistaken didn't you have a ton of damage to the rear a while back?

 

How many miles do you have on your car?

If you already have over 75k or close to it, I doubt the color change would significantly lower the value of your car. Case in point. '91 (last year E30) BMW M3 w/ 40k miles go for around $20-$25k depending on the condition. Those cars had retail of about $29k+. What about the same year car with 75k+ miles? They are around $14-$19k. Once it hits "high" mileage, the price of car is determined by overall condition... where many have been repainted.

Unless you have a CW ITR, I doubt color change would effect your profit.

 

ITR is a blank canvas. Paint it any color j00 like

 

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If you already have over 75k or close to it, I doubt the color change would significantly lower the value of your car. Case in point. '91 (last year E30) BMW M3 w/ 40k miles go for around $20-$25k depending on the condition. Those cars had retail of about $29k+. What about the same year car with 75k+ miles? They are around $14-$19k. Once it hits "high" mileage, the price of car is determined by overall condition... where many have been repainted.

Unless you have a CW ITR, I doubt color change would effect your profit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

#1013 has around 40K miles. Since I've gotten my bike, I hardly drive it, so at this rate it would probably take me a good couple of years at least to reach 75K.

I'm encouraged by what I see in this thread, though. If I do this, it will be done as stealthily as possible. I'd remove the ITR stickers, and maybe even the red "A" badges depending on where I move to. Mugen wing will probably have to go too.

 

Y00 know where that wing goes, right?!?!

 

Hmmm ... I'd say it depends on the color, with respect to resale value.
What color or colors, pray tell, were you considering?

Personally, since mine is white it might make a good canvas for something similar to one of Warhol's BMW art cars.

BTW -- I havent been to CCR for what seems like a year ....

http://www.seriouswheels.com/t...g.htm

http://www.artnet.com/magazine...9.asp

http://www.seriouswheels.com/a...F.htm

http://www.concorsodeleganzavi...s.asp

http://www.babez.de/bmw/scaleart.php

Maybe this could be done with vinyl from a print shop!

 

I think the biggest thing would be getting the job done correctly, I wouldn't worry about the resale value too much as long as the repaint is an OEM color. My biggest concerns would be that the body shop removes alot of the parts in the engine bay and sprays everything in there the same color (PY will be very noticeable if they miss a spot or something is masked off and later removed) As well the obvious parts like color matching the door jambs, hatch area under the carpet (where the Tire goes). I'd say if your going to do it have them remove all the interior and get the paint over the yellow paint in there too.

 

Yeah Mike, it would have to be a thoroughly done job. Engine, interior, etc.

The paint isn't in great shape anyway, so this is a nice opportunity.

Right now I'm thinking black or gunmetal.

 

how about milano red????
you would be driving a red portscar then but theft might be a tad less likely

 

How about SATIN BLACK with a non-glossy clear coat (like the SKUNK2 Civic SI Challenge Car)

 

The Skunk2 car is hot

 

Gunmetal

 

holy **** the phantom gray on CE28n's is HOT.

Yea my vote goes for the gun metal or FBP

 

Cone ?????

 

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you would be driving a red portscar then but theft might be a tad less likely </TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought about red, but given the way I tend to take care of my cars' exteriors, red would start looking beat in a hurry. Ever seen a 10-year-old Milano Red paint job? Mine would look like that in about 36 months.

I want more info on the Skunk car. How did they get it to look like that?

 

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I thought about red, but given the way I tend to take care of my cars' exteriors, red would start looking beat in a hurry. Ever seen a 10-year-old Milano Red paint job? Mine would look like that in about 36 months.

I want more info on the Skunk car. How did they get it to look like that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that skunk 2 reminds of primered black.. i'd keep it original color if you're concered about preserving the car original and possibly resale value, if to repaint, are you going to repaint everything? including engine bay? sounds like a lot of work unless you want the 2 tone color.

 

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Ahhh-ha-ha-ha-ha. There is no shame in the world.

 

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(Sigh.) Another of Ross's jilted girlfriends, no doubt.

It's going to be almost impossible for a painter to get the car done in a way that would avoid detection, so it <u>will</u> lower the resale value for the average buyer who will be loathe to believe that the paint is not the result of untoward incident.

Oh. Wait. It is! LOL....

I think I'd just do what I wanted if I were you, Ross. You've been saying for years you'd never sell it, so, why not?

 

Unless it is a complete change over I would say no, I can't stress the amount of civics that I see any other color but with a black engine bay because they decide to spray can paint the bay black before putting the engine in and then changing the exterior to some other color

 

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Not sure what Skunk used for paint but I know for a fact that the "Spies Hecker" brand has a variety of clears from Flat to High Gloss. They even have some cool texture additives that when mixed right can give you a suede feel to the paint or even the lines and feel of leather or vinyl.
Go with a Flat Black Suede texture hehe

 

r81 milano red