Car idled fine yesturday.
I went out to crank it this morning, and all you hear is the starter spinning. It won't catch to turnover.
When I turn the key you hear the pump prime, so fuel is going. I actually took the starter off, went to O'Reillys and got another, it made no difference, so I put the old one back on.
I checked the fuses under the dash, the "starter fuse" is not blown, but its not reading any power either, but the starter is engaging.
My gas tank is reading near full. I put $14 in it Friday and haven't driven it 10 miles.
What else could it be, the battery is fine, its a brand new Odyssey P680.

 

Check, the dizzy. Sounds like it has no fire.

 

I was thinking about that, but would it go bad overnight??

 

ITs getting fire, I just pulled the #1 wire, used the screw driver and checked for the sparck. It arched when I tried cranking it so the fire is there. What else?????? Could the fuel filter get clogged that quickly?

 

no codes?

 

Nope, no codes. Yesturday it threw a code 7 when it starting to get hot. But I drained all the fluid refilled it, let it idle for almost an hour. It ran cool and had no cel (I unplugged and replugged the ecu). But as far as today, no codes at all, just won't start. It spins and spins, but won't start

 

oh yeah and you just installed the AEBS manifold correct? Go back over your work

 

I installed the mani outside of the car. Thats just it, the car idled fine, perfectly smooth yesturday, crunk with no problems.
I just went and bought 1 gal. of 93 octane and poured it in the tank. Now it will try to turn over and will actually crank as long as I am featrhering the gas, but it smokes like an old lawn mower (white smoke) Could it be a clogged fuel filter.
I also tryed spraying a little gas into the throttle body. I don't think that helped because I opened the throttle body afterwords, and the same white smoke came out of there.

 

white smoke generally means either water or coolant..... blown headgasket? warped head? etc

do a compression check..... how bad did it overheat?

 

smell it.... if it smells sweet you got a coolant issue if it smells like gas i would go with checking the injectors

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2kTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">smell it.... if it smells sweet you got a coolant issue if it smells like gas i would go with checking the injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>

It stinks, doesn't smell sweet at all, doesn't really smell like gas either. When it cranks it has an old funk smell, maybe mixed w/ gas.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Erik_Pb_Foot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">white smoke generally means either water or coolant..... blown headgasket? warped head? etc

do a compression check..... how bad did it overheat?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It didn't overheat bad. I was less than a mile from my house, I drove it home and kept it under 3k. Once I got here I checked the coolant, bled it out and filled it. Thats when the lower radiator hose begn to warm up like it should along with the top hose. It sat and idled fine yesturday. Whenever I hit the gas a few times it sounded perfect. This morning, sounds like ****. When I try to crank and gas it at the same time, it idles like **** and smokes like a grill. I was just on the phone with the tech from work and I let him hear it and he says it sounds like it jumped time, and the white smoke doesn't sound good.
Could it have jumped time and dameaged the headgasket?

 

What I don't understaned is it went from running perfectly smooth, smooth like it had 0 miles, to not running at all. I'm stuck with looking at the bay right now and thinking, "Damn that looks good, I wish I could move it"

My tech also told me to pull the spark plugs to see if they are flooded. I left my sparkplug socket in a guys trunk last week so I can't do that until tomorrow

 

check plugs and timing. does it backfire at all?

 

Nah, no back firing, just idles (if I can call it that) extremely rough, like the timing is way off. But it was fine yesturday, and hasn't moved. Cranks like an old jalopy. I can't even be mad right now, because I've never seen anything like it. Swap looks great, I just can't drive it.

 

i still think it's your timing....

 

I'm going to try it again in the A.M...I may have to have it towed to our shop.

 

mines doing the same thing, my car is smoking like hell and it sounds like a mean lawnmawr. i know for a fact that 2 of my cylinders arent working. what u should do is, turn the car on, pull the plugs from the dizzy one by one, and your car should wanna try to shut off as soon as u pull each of them off, if u pull one off and the idling doesnt change, then thats the cylinder that isnt working.

 

blown head gasket

 

i think its timing...

 

Car doesn't idle long enough to do that<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teamner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mines doing the same thing, my car is smoking like hell and it sounds like a mean lawnmawr. i know for a fact that 2 of my cylinders arent working. what u should do is, turn the car on, pull the plugs from the dizzy one by one, and your car should wanna try to shut off as soon as u pull each of them off, if u pull one off and the idling doesnt change, then thats the cylinder that isnt working.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it is the headgasket or timing too. But how would either one blow or jump if the car did not move. It ent from 100% to 0% with no cranks, or driving in between

 

Called a friend this morning, he's a srvc. mgr. at Honda. He said he's had a lot of cases lately of mixed gas from Entec where they have been pumping ref. and getting diesel, and getting the same prob. as me. So I am going to check the gas tonight for seperation.

 

Keep in mind there are three needs....Fuel, Compression and ignition......alway isolaate to those three first...then break it down from there...........

If you got much diesel in the gas its going to feel real greasy on your fingers....I would not recomend smelling it.

 

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I'll keep that in mind

 

Got home pulled the plugs, no moisture and they all looked pretty good. So no blown HG. It has got to be bad gas. I am going to try to have it towed to my shop to drop the gas tank and inspect it

 

get a snap-on meter that has a graph and look to see if your injecotrs are pulsing anymore.