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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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I just brought home some slotted&crossed drilled rotors and EBC green stuff brake pads. I wanted to get new calipers (stock) and paint them. While I was replacing all the brake parts I wanted to flush the brake fluid, but I was reading my Haynes manual and it says not to bleed brakes with (ABS) since special tools are needed.
Does anyone know what tool is needed?
Is it one of those hand pumps or vaccum bleeding machines?
By the way its a little known fact you supposed to <U>flush</U> your brake system every 2 years
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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I heard that the abs pressure is around 2400 psi, so you dont want to mess w/ it. Just flush/bleed the normal way.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MADMAXX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... but I was reading my Haynes manual and it says not to bleed brakes with (ABS) since special tools are needed...</TD></TR></TABLE>What car? Accords have had at least 2 different ABS systems over the years.

My '98 ABS system does NOT have it's own fluid reservoir or bleed valve. Brake fluid flushes directly thru the modulator when you flush the main brakes. The only difference vs. other years is the bleeding order.

Before '97 there was a system that had it's own reservoir, but you can bleed that. Earlier Legends had a system that needed a control box of sorts, to turn the ABS pump on & off for bleeding; maybe some Accords had something like that?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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How long before you are suppose to bleed your brake fluid?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Usually every 2 years, regardless of miles. It picks up moisture from the air & that makes it corrosive.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What car? Accords have had at least 2 different ABS systems over the years.

My '98 ABS system does NOT have it's own fluid reservoir or bleed valve. Brake fluid flushes directly thru the modulator when you flush the main brakes. The only difference vs. other years is the bleeding order.

Before '97 there was a system that had it's own reservoir, but you can bleed that. Earlier Legends had a system that needed a control box of sorts, to turn the ABS pump on & off for bleeding; maybe some Accords had something like that?
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I have a '93 Accord with its own reservoir for the ABS
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Bleed your brakes normally. Don't even think of bleeding the ABS. Take it to the honda dealership for that. And yeah, the ABS pressure is just over 2000psi.

Besides, I've never had to bleed ABS on anything that i've worked on. Regular brake bleeding seems to do fine.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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I just had my master cylinder replaced last weekend & my pedel feels weak.

Is it possable my abs needs bleed ??
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MADMAXX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a '93 Accord with its own reservoir for the ABS </TD></TR></TABLE>Here's how to do it for a '95 Integra. I'm not sure whether yours is the same.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=993524
On mine, the bleed screw was right there, easy to recognize. If yours isn't, then get your hands on a Helm shop manual (public library??) It's a lot more complete than Haynes.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xthephilx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bleed your brakes normally. Don't even think of bleeding the ABS. Take it to the honda dealership for that. And yeah, the ABS pressure is just over 2000psi.

Besides, I've never had to bleed ABS on anything that i've worked on. Regular brake bleeding seems to do fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well when I bought the car there was no cover on the ABS resovoir so I know it has absorbed a lot of water and I don't want it ruining my ABs syatem
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 04:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MADMAXX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well when I bought the car there was no cover on the ABS resovoir so I know it has absorbed a lot of water and I don't want it ruining my ABs syatem</TD></TR></TABLE>Does the ABS warning light come on during the system check then stay off?

Does the pump run for a few seconds when you start the engine?

Does it have a bleed screw visible? I briefly looked at pictures at Majestic Honda & it looks like your ABS pump/accumulator is separate from the modulator. I don't know where the bleed screw is. Since the system doesn't look exactly the same as my '95 Integra, I won't say the procedure is the same...

If you want your ABS to work, & you're comfortable with the idea of bleeding your own brakes; then a Helm book will probably pay for itself on this one job.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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If you look in the top left corner that is the resovoir for the ABS
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Old May 8, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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~bump~ Trying to get more info. Great tech question need more answers.
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Old May 9, 2005 | 04:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MADMAXX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you look in the top left corner that is the resovoir for the ABS</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, but I can't see enough detail to say much. All I can tell is it's not quite the same system as my '95 Integra, so I don't want to give you instructions that turn out to be wrong. On that car you bleed the normal brakes first.

In general... You should have tubing that's tight on the ABS bleeder & open it carefully. There's enough pressure to hurt you if it slips. Then you need the procedure for your model/year, so you know how to make the pump run without messing it up or overheating it.
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