Just Curious what front spindle assembly you guys are running,
stock brakes??

pictures would be helpfull

we've tried the itr front knuckles but no luck with that........

but i see most hotrod class cars are rocking 4 lug still.


Thanks in advance.

 

i dont know who youve been watching but most of hot rod is on 5 lug chevy pattern... big money setups... what size tires are you gonna run?

 

Extreme

 

Stock with junk axles like dss or prodrive or gator. Those are the cheap 4 lug setups you see. Or the good **** like nitrodriveline by rob moore or I believe kmr or something makes what gary g used to run. And mark williams stuff. cheap 1500 good stuff 5000.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Show Stopper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just Curious what front spindle assembly you guys are running,
stock brakes??

pictures would be helpfull

we've tried the itr front knuckles but no luck with that........

but i see most hotrod class cars are rocking 4 lug still.


Thanks in advance.
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what is wrong with stock ITR front knuckles?

i can say from first hand experiance, you are better off buying all the parts(hubs,brakes,alxles, struts) and building your own suspension. too many bad guys in this industry.

do a little search... you will find alot on "hotrod front suspension"

 

You have one bad experience and you condem everyone else that builds quality parts because of it. Do research before you invest and buy quality which costs money and you usually won't get hurt. There is allot of time that goes into building a good trouble free setup and time costs money as do good parts that are trouble free like the Mark Williams driveline stuff used with the front suspension I built for Gary G's car. If you want to run like the big dogs you can't have kitty cat parts on your car. Touble free parts allow you to work on what counts which is how to go faster not putting bandages on shortcut parts. The xtrac trans in Gary G's honda is expensive but it is also trouble free so instead of pulling a trans after every run you can work on more important things. LIKE GOING FAST I am sorry you had a bad experience but give it up already and don't group us together. So many guys are spending so much time trying to figure out how things are done that their car will never get done or be obsolete by the time it is. A car like a hot rod car can't be built over years just look at the evolution of the class and the et's. Granted the et's will level off some but to get a honda or any car to those numbers you can't cut corners. I have said it before and will say it again to build a heads up car first you need a wad of money then you build a car if its a bracket car you can do a little here and there but building a heads up car using that method many of the parts or work will be obsolete before the car is finished if it ever does get finished.

Bob Kasper
Kasper Fabrication & Machine
KFM Race Cars & Components
609-851-2810

 

Im with Bob, you cant group people like that, if buying all the parts and building your own was as easy as you make it then how come your cars isnt running? i have seen you stated in other post thats all your missing?

 

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seems like a "dog eat dog world" to me.


you got any money to donate to the cause? becuase i sure as hell dont.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KFMRC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have one bad experience and you condem everyone else that builds quality parts because of it. Do research before you invest and buy quality which costs money and you usually won't get hurt. There is allot of time that goes into building a good trouble free setup and time costs money as do good parts that are trouble free like the Mark Williams driveline stuff used with the front suspension I built for Gary G's car. If you want to run like the big dogs you can't have kitty cat parts on your car. Touble free parts allow you to work on what counts which is how to go faster not putting bandages on shortcut parts. The xtrac trans in Gary G's honda is expensive but it is also trouble free so instead of pulling a trans after every run you can work on more important things. LIKE GOING FAST I am sorry you had a bad experience but give it up already and don't group us together. So many guys are spending so much time trying to figure out how things are done that their car will never get done or be obsolete by the time it is. A car like a hot rod car can't be built over years just look at the evolution of the class and the et's. Granted the et's will level off some but to get a honda or any car to those numbers you can't cut corners. I have said it before and will say it again to build a heads up car first you need a wad of money then you build a car if its a bracket car you can do a little here and there but building a heads up car using that method many of the parts or work will be obsolete before the car is finished if it ever does get finished.

Bob Kasper
Kasper Fabrication & Machine
KFM Race Cars & Components
609-851-2810</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly why im content running my local points series not everyone has a "wad of money" to blow all at once.

Beau

 

That is the reason there are bracket races. You can race your car at an et level that you can afford and when you want to go faster then you change your dial or bracket. That is the reason why you don't need that lump sum of capital. The parts needed to run a heads up car are ever evolving and that means you need to buy the parts and race them within a timely manner before there obsoleted by newer or better. Heads up is cool but it takes a significant investment that many can't afford and for some they think that they can build it a piece at a time and by the time they are done they have a car that is about 2-3 seasons behind. One season if they bought the parts fast enough and another that they will loose trying to sort everything out. The old saying speed costs money how fast do you want to go is very true and headsup and $$$$$ go hand in hand. I don't want anyone to think that I am some high priced guy but when you add up the total cost of a hotrod car that will be competitive (capable of 8.0's) it is a major chunk of change to build and another to sort out and then you need the racing budget. I have seen allot of cars started here and many sit in limbo. It's shame they aren't finished and raced as bracket cars at least ( even in bracket you can learn to tune and what changes work). You guys need to keep the cars going and race and in time for some things will come around and you might find yourself in a hotrod car or such. I am not trying to slam or upset anyone just trying to point out the grim reality of racing headsup. He a long time ago rules sould have been in place that would prevent the hotrod cars from going faster than 8.5 and it would have been more affordable for many more racers but it has taken the route of most classes in just about any sanctioning body there is. Out of control

 

really good points, almost 2 years ago I tried to open a discussion about limiting hotrod to 26" tires to keep the cost(trannies,hp,e.t.) down but was met with opposition, its just the racer in everybody that always wants to go faster.
Nothing wrong with that, but when you race against real companies like Rousch I personally would have liked to see gary g and everybody outdrive them and not have to outspend them, which is almost impossible.
The more rules they add the more it costs to compete, thats pretty universal, so its just helping the rich even more.

 

Rules save money and control progression when written and enforced correctly. At this point serious rules changes would cost allot of money to those that are racing at the top of the class. I woudn't want to be the one making the calls on a hotrod rules change because it would need to get really ugly for there to be a benefit in the long run.

 

That's funny that this has come about. Chuck Seitsinger from Alternative started his project a few years ago when we were running mid 9's with Kenny's car. He used all the parts required to run with the best at the time. Well, as you can imagine, the class progressed quite a bit when his car was being finished. He ended up with methanol and a 66mm turbo looking to compete in the hot rod class! lol That turbo won't get you anywhere now days! He changed quite a few things and now has a serious contender. There was alot of money wasted in upgrading what was still new parts at the time, just outdated.

 

yeah but look what happened, it came out and hit 9.0 and 8's really quick, with that "9.5" setup and the long *** header! Just goes to show how well you guys did with what he had. Thats what I was envisioning the class to be with the 26" tire thing, side by side racing, tuners and drivers making the difference - not 1000 whp and a team of 3 guys developing/servicing/changing the tranny every pass.

 

hot rod does seem to be a compotition of credit card/ bank role than it does building/driver talent

 

M/T Slicks 26x10x15
rear 24x4.5x15

Nuformz/Strange Rear Suspension,

Just cannot figure what i want or need for the front.

i see alot of 4 lugs on these cars, Then i see some 5 lugs?

 

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rear 24x4.5x15

Nuformz/Strange Rear Suspension,

Just cannot figure what i want or need for the front.

i see alot of 4 lugs on these cars, Then i see some 5 lugs?

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http://www.nitrodriveline.com

 

If you are looking for some Nitrodrivline setup i got a set brandnew sitting here im wanting to part with. they are 5 lug, chevy bolt pattern.
PM me if interested.
Minh.

 

Pm Sent

 

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