So yesterday I pulled the head to replace my headagasket(head lift...d16 pride bitch!!)

After I had it off I found this. What you are looking for it the scars runing vertically at the top of the cylinder. They are deep enough that you can feel it with your finger. Should I re-hone the cylinders?Or bore it out? By the way this is a d series so if its gonna be alot to fix this I might as well get a b series or somethin.

 

damn, im pretty sure u should get that re hone, also stay d series, parts are cheaper.

 

well are al the cylinders like that or just that one, have ytou ever ran a compression test on it, and guessing from the name im guessing your boosted, honestly dont waste the time to just hone it, bore it and sleeve it, i would, but just my thought

 

Just the #2 cylinder is like that. The scratches are not very deep. Just deep enough that you can feel it with your finger. Also compresion was good. Did a test before I boosted it.

 

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that was before your head started lifting from the block though...

 

hows your head in good shape, but id still bore it out sleeve it and youll have a quick d16!! id envy you

 

ok this *** that keeps saying sleeve it over a few minor scratches quite spreading bad info..
if there not that bad i would say do a hone on it and put it back together

 

Honing the cylinders wouldn't be a bad idea. I think, I may be wrong, but I think Honda says that cylinder walls aren't in bad shape as long as you can run your finger nail along them without it getting caught. So as long as it is not to deep.
It's hard to tell. As long as honing it will make it pretty smooth you only need to hone.
If you want more displacement, I'd go with a B18 series motor, because then you get the DOHC and the 1.8 litres. Or you could bore out that block and save money some money.

 

ummm i think it would be cheaper to just buy another block if anything because d16's are a dime a million.....

and yeah, that *** doesnt sound like he knows what hes talking about. you sleeve a block first then you bore/hone it to fit the pistons

 

How much does honing usually cost?

 

Machine shops around me charge $10 a cylinder. It's normally pretty cheap.

 

The scratches are just deep enough to catch your finger nail. The main problem is that this is my daily driver and im in high school so I NEED a car. I am leaning towards just honing it for now and seing what happens. If its needed I'll bore that sucker out this summer and have a D18

 

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ha, u cant bore it out to 1.8L not the he d series blocks.

 

if you sleeve it you can.

 

d18 that would b impressive, wouldn't u need to upgrade your fuel system for that?

 

it wont bore out that big i dont think.

 

it gets real close, close enough you could say you do, the max i have heard you cana bore a sleeved d16 is 78mm, but then you are running the risk of blowing the headgasket every 5 minutes because its so thing on the top of the sleeves

 

I was'nt serious. I would just buy a b18b if it came down to it.

 

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why. so u can pay 500-600 for a tranny? stay d series parts are so much cheaper, u can get a d tranny for 150-250 all the parts are cheaper. just boost it.

 

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why. so u can pay 500-600 for a tranny? stay d series parts are so much cheaper, u can get a d tranny for 150-250 all the parts are cheaper. just boost it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hell ya, i am buying a d16 block sleeved and am gunna boost it to death, and if the tranny blows up someone doing a swap will give them to you if you pick them up lol

 

i heart d series parts, and availabilty

 

If you got the block and the head apart already spend some money and get your engine fixed before it's too late. New D-series blocks may be $250, but why pay that when you know it's used and may need to be honed as well. Pay a machine shop $40 and get them all. Don't wait till your engine craps out.

 

Don't you have to pull the pistons out if you are going to hone the cylinders?

If you are going to do that, you might as well throw in some vitara pistons and scat rods while you are in there... that way you can boost more!

 

Pistons need to come out. Pretty much the whole engine should come apart. The machine shop needs the block and the crank to hone so they can make sure everything is centered. Then if you're taking it apart you might as well rebuild it and if you are going to rebuild by not just go for the B18?

I love the B18! Especially the C5. Anyways good luck with what you're doing. Hope it turns out good.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by airplan727 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pistons need to come out. Pretty much the whole engine should come apart. The machine shop needs the block and the crank to hone so they can make sure everything is centered. Then if you're taking it apart you might as well rebuild it and if you are going to rebuild by not just go for the B18?

I love the B18! Especially the C5. Anyways good luck with what you're doing. Hope it turns out good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The don't need the crank, just the main caps. You're supposed to be a mechanic too!?

Anyways, SLIGHT scratches on the cylinder wall are considered by Honda as "Acceptable". Its printed in the Helm for those who want to bitch at me. So long as they don't run the entire length of the cylinder, they are ok. They obviously shouldn't be horribly deep, and if they are just barely catching your nail, I would say they will most likley not cause harm.