Here's the dilemma. im about to get a camera and im stuck on which one to buy.. after researching and seeing what people have to say I've narrowed it down to a canon D70 or a 20D. if anyone who owns either camera or shot with both could give some insight about which one they liked better.. ie-pic quality, user friendliness, ect. i know the 20D is about 500 bucks more than the D70, but is it worth the extra money to pick that one up instead cause if so, i have no prob saving up a little more cash. like i said any insight what so ever would be sooo much appreciated

 

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you win with either or. if you are starting i would advise investing into the cheaper body and getting better lenses.

the canon vs nikon debate will go on forever, the bottom line is you can't go wrong with either one. i personally have a 20d.

 

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the canon vs nikon debate will go on forever, the bottom line is you can't go wrong with either one. i personally have a 20d.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man....im sorta an intermediate photographer, but mostley 35mm and developing myself, have a digi cam already but its just a cheap point a shoot so im looking for a nice slr that i can get creative with....btw your pics are always soo nice

 

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20D is better but they are both good. I would just get the D70.

 

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if you said the 20D is better then why would you get the D70? just cause the price?

 

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Trung laying it down

 

Get whichever has the better ergonomics/interface for you. Meaning, make sure you find a place that has both and go play with each. Try changing settings and figuring how to navigate through the cameras options. Whichever you prefer is the one to get.

Brian

 

good point brian. i'm not a fan of nikon's menus

 

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Very well said

 

The first thing I'll give you is this (taken from Steve's signature):
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm

With that I'll pretty much say it's all really up to your post processing procedure to get the most out of what you have. Like others have said, it's really up to you whether or not you go with Nikon or Canon; everyone has their own reasons why they choose either. There are a handful of 20D owners here such as myself, Jason, Len, Trung, etc, while the D70 guys are all over too like Steve and some other guys. Oh well, what do I know all my pics suck anyways.

 

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http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm

With that I'll pretty much say it's all really up to your post processing procedure to get the most out of what you have. Like others have said, it's really up to you whether or not you go with Nikon or Canon; everyone has their own reasons why they choose either. There are a handful of 20D owners here such as myself, Jason, Len, Trung, etc, while the D70 guys are all over too like Steve and some other guys. Oh well, what do I know all my pics suck anyways. </TD></TR></TABLE>

we all suck bro, magazines just use us because we're free

 

I would suggest looking into the Canon REbel 350XT. One hell of a camera at that price level.

Heres a side by side camparo of the 2

http://www.dpreview.com/review...3.asp

 

The XT seems like a great camera, has alot of the characteristics of the 20d, but it is freaking tiny. I played with one at Bestbuy awhile ago and it felt like it was a Fisher Price camera or something.

Just my .02 on the XT

 

Hmm, I never had a chance to pick one up yet. The old 300D felt OK. I figured Canon would've improved on the build for the 350XT, gotta play with it for myself one day.

But the picture quality between the two is so close, I would definitely save some money and go with the 350XT.

 

I personally like smaller light cameras. My D30 is freakin' huge and really heavey. Wearing the strap around your neck feels like having a gallon of milk chained to you. I guess it depends how you'll be using it if that's a factor or not.

 

20D &gt; D70

 

Damn all you Canon ******.

True, Nikon's menus aren't as easy to navigate as Canons. However, the D70's primary and secondary command dials are used as shortcuts to bypass the use of the menus. I've probably used the menus on my D70 twice since I've owned it.

Main things to consider:
-8MP vs. 6MP
-3fps vs. 4fps
-Canon kit lens vs. Nikon kit lens

Oh yeah, and read the articles on both cameras on dpreview.com.

 

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Check the April 2005 "Popular Photography and Imaging" magazine. They compared nine DSLR's.

Among the nine were:
Canon EOS 20D: $1,550 street with lens kit
Canon EOS Digital Rebel: $799 street with lens kit
Fujifilm Finepix S3 Pro: $2,350 street with lens kit
Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D: $1,690 street with lens kit
Nikon D70: $1,300 street with lens kit
Olympus E-1: $1,300 street with lens kit
Olympus Evolt E-300: $1,000 street with lens kit
Pentax *ist DS: $900 street with lens kit
Sigma SD10: $1,500 street with lens kit

The results

Image Quality
1. Canon EOS 20D
2. Fujifilm Finepix S3 PRO
2. Nikon D70

Ease of use
1. Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D
2. Canon EOS 20D
3. Pentax *ist DS

Control
1. Canon EOS 20D
2. Nikon D70
3. Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D

System Flexibility
1. Canon EOS 20D
2. Nikon D70
3. Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D

Overall Rank
1. Canon EOS 20D
2. Nikon D70
3. Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D


http://www.popphoto.com

Nikon D70 - Camera of the Year 2004
http://www.popphoto.com/articl...=1156

Ohh..and I read that the Nikon D70 has better color. More vivid.

 

It's so hard to tell which is better. We're comparing apples to oranges. What's better, BMW or Mercedes? Depends...it's comes down to personal preference I think.

I hope for their "Best image quality" comparison they used the EXACT same lens on each camera. Otherwise the results are merely subjective.

 

its all on whos behind the camera and the computer. i suck at both. so that means i gotta learn to use the camera and computer better. constant learning process. and also learning to adapt to environment.

btw im a d70 user myself.