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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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I have an 89 Si that had a b16 and I'm going to put in a D16.

I think I need all these usdm EF (dx or si) parts: intake, mani's, header, dist., plugs, harness, axles, tranny, shift linkage, clutch and ecu; to be smog legal, and for the car to run.

Need to know exactly what EF Dx parts I can use, and what EF Si parts I have to use. I'm pretty sure I need EF Si (d16a6) dist., plugs, tranny, ecu, and I think I can get the rest of the parts from an EF Dx. The car's not going to have a d16a6, but will have a sohc zc or some other d-series.

Not sure if this is all correct...

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Find a writeup on installing a B16A and then work in reverse.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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looks good. also, some people on the front crossmember hammer the tabs for the mount down or cut them off to clear a header. you might need one of those.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Mr. latino betta take that "dr." off your name cuz you dont know jack.

To clarify for latino...its simply not that simple. Theres obd and mpfi situations that dont come with the usual b16 swap...so no you cant work back from someone who installed a b16. Next time make sure you know what your talking about before you post.

Thanks for the useful info from bagpipe.

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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Bagpipe are you talking about tabs that I would need to weld in?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Just to clarify...If I buy a 88-91 sohc zc w/ cable tranny, the tranny will work in my EF?

Can someone confirm or deny the info. in the first post?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtaK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an 89 Si that had a b16 and I'm going to put in a D16.</TD></TR></TABLE>First assumption from the statement is that you are running OBD-0, no mention is made of any other OBD level.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtaK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think I need all these usdm EF (dx or si) parts: intake, mani's, header, dist., plugs, harness (<FONT COLOR="red">You can use the harness you have now</FONT>), axles, tranny, shift linkage, clutch and ecu; to be smog legal, and for the car to run. Need to know exactly what EF Dx parts I can use, and what EF Si parts I have to use.</TD></TR></TABLE>You can use EITHER DX/SI Transmission, SI wire harness if the one on your motor is being removed with the motor, D15B2 or D16A6 motor, SI Intake Manifold and Throttle Body, and SI Distributor. Exhaust manifolds are the same between the motors.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtaK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mr. latino betta take that "dr." off your name cuz you dont know jack.</TD></TR></TABLE>I went to many years of Latino Graduate School to attain that title

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EtaK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To clarify for latino...its simply not that simple. Theres obd and mpfi situations that dont come with the usual b16 swap...so no you cant work back from someone who installed a b16. Next time make sure you know what your talking about before you post.</TD></TR></TABLE> If the front crossmember is maimed, you can always replace it with a spare from the yard, $50 max. Why are there MPFI issues? Are you using ITB's?


Modified by dr_latino999 at 10:02 PM 4/15/2005
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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No on the itbs.

Thanks for the info helped out a lot.

Si or Dx with these parts: dist. + plugs, clutch?

Would the fuel rail have to be changed for smog if I get a jdm engine?

Thanks again mr. phd.

Are all these parts interchangable (will work) on a d15b?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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You will need to use the Si distributor and plugs.

The fuel rail will not need to be changed. However, be aware that if the ref checks the block stamp and it says zc he will fail you.

The clutch and flywheel should be matched to the year of the transmission
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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even if i change all the smog parts to usdm?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Are you doing this to pass smog? If so, you might stand a better chance just getting your car BAR'd. - Darrell
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Yea thats what i'd do to the new motor (zc, d15, or d16).

Any more info would be appreciated...
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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I always thought you could not bar a zc because it never had a US counterpart...Am I wrong???
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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dn bump...
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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So what do you need to know now?

you can use the DX transmission.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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just buy a god damn d16a6 swap, makes life easier, and they are hella cheap
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always thought you could not bar a zc because it never had a US counterpart...Am I wrong???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would a D16A1 not be a suitable counterpart? I don't have to smog or BAR so I don't have any direct experience.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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It would, and i might...but can someone confirm the info given, or add some more.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Confirmed.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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So can you bar the zc?
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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anybody ^^^^?
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