Hey guys...I've searched but can't find all the information I need to do this swap.

I am getting a b18a1 motor/transmission/wiring harness for dirt cheap(runs good) and I would like to put that engine into my 94 civic coupe Si

From what I read on the net I need 96+ integra axles, hydro transmission or cable-hydro conversion, the stock wiring harness I belive I can still use but I'm not sure about the throttle cable or what I would do with the engine/transmission mounts.

I also plan to do LS/Vtec with a b16a2 head on this engine while I re-build it so would I need the b16 wiring harness or would my stock D16z6 wiring harness be good?

What ECU would I need to use? Would using my current P28 be a good idea?


help out a bruddah since I need to swap something into my car
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Yeah man I still have my LS hatch... as long as its obd-1 all you need is: transmission, 94+ integra mounts, integra throttle cable, I think any year integra axels, integra or any b series shift linkage, 94+ integra ecu, you can use the stock wiring harness, that should cover it... im in school now and the bell just rang so ill get on tonight and make sure thats everything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LShatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah man I still have my LS hatch... as long as its obd-1 all you need is: transmission, 94+ integra mounts, integra throttle cable, I think any year integra axels, integra or any b series shift linkage, 94+ integra ecu, you can use the stock wiring harness, that should cover it... im in school now and the bell just rang so ill get on tonight and make sure thats everything </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was searching and I think that the engine is obd-0 as it came from a 1991 integra
but let me know man...I'd like to do this swap

 

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Bump, i wanna know too, i got a 93 4 door eg. I'm getting ready to put an ls in it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I read on the net I need 96+ integra axles, hydro transmission or cable-hydro conversion, the stock wiring harness I belive I can still use but I'm not sure about the throttle cable or what I would do with the engine/transmission mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are getting the 90-93 Integra axles, you can use them no problem as long as you have the 90-93 intermediate shaft as well. Even if you get a hydro tranny which is a much better choice than using the cable tranny with the conversion, you can still reuse the 90-93 axles. All you will need to do is switch out the driver's side tranny seal to a 90-93 Integra seal.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also plan to do LS/Vtec with a b16a2 head on this engine while I re-build it so would I need the b16 wiring harness or would my stock D16z6 wiring harness be good?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whether you run the swap as an LS or as an LSVTEC, it would be best to reuse your stock engine harness. Either way, your harness will work with little to no modifications.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What ECU would I need to use? Would using my current P28 be a good idea?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The P28 (acutally any OBD1 Civic or Integra ECU) is the best choice for an LSVTEC as it can be chipped or socketed allowing you to run a custom program for optimum performance. If you are interested in going that route let me know. If you have it ZIF socketed for Uberdata, you could then change the chips at any time making it virtually an endless tunable ECU.

 

i'm doing the same i just use the cable clutch pedals instead of the hydro ones um wat mount r u using?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECVillain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are getting the 90-93 Integra axles, you can use them no problem as long as you have the 90-93 intermediate shaft as well. Even if you get a hydro tranny which is a much better choice than using the cable tranny with the conversion, you can still reuse the 90-93 axles. All you will need to do is switch out the driver's side tranny seal to a 90-93 Integra seal.

Whether you run the swap as an LS or as an LSVTEC, it would be best to reuse your stock engine harness. Either way, your harness will work with little to no modifications.

The P28 (acutally any OBD1 Civic or Integra ECU) is the best choice for an LSVTEC as it can be chipped or socketed allowing you to run a custom program for optimum performance. If you are interested in going that route let me know. If you have it ZIF socketed for Uberdata, you could then change the chips at any time making it virtually an endless tunable ECU.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks for the information man
That helped


I'll be picking up the motor after exams and starting to strip it and for sure pickup either a LS or GSR transmission and run that instead of the cable tranny.

 

Found some info from another post i made

ok, i've done this swap before and changing from obd0 to obd1 isn't that difficult. i used my stock civic harness and i only had to lengthen a couple wires for it to reach properly. but you should try to get the stock harness from the b18a motor cause it will make running the wires for the fuel rail and injectors easier.

you will also need a distributor and alternator from a 92+ integra or a 94+ dels sol VTEC. the alternator you can actually get from any b-series but to get it to be plugnplay you would need to hack the plugs.

you can take all the sensors off your d-series tb, but you will need an obd1 b-series throttle body.

i'm not sure what axles you need, i am running a hydro tranny mated to a b18a block. i'm running 99-00 civic si axles and the drivers side cv shaft seal leaks bad. i've replaced the seal 2 times and it doesn't help. i lose about a pint of tranny fluid every 200 miles. i am going to try a set of 2nd gen teg axles once i have enough
money to buy them.


http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...54578


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Modified by Mr.RHTuner at 7:10 PM 4/25/2005

 

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You need:
Axles from a 94-up integra
B series shift linkage
Dist. from OBD1 Ls motor
B series OBD1 alternator
Get your p28 chipped, and reuse it
94-up integra mounts will work or Hasport, if you have the money I reccomend getting aftermarket mounts
Use your stock wiring harness
I'd reccomend using a hydro tranny, a b16 tranny would be nice because of the shorter gears

I'm pretty sure that's all you'll need in order to finish the swap. Good luck

 

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Update

Well here is a corrective update for the swap of putting a b18a into a 92-95 civic(we did it on an LX)

1) The mounts you DO NEED are 1994+ Driver side engine bracket and mount

2) The rear bracket needs to be from a 94+ integra. The mount for the rear can be used from the civic/integra also.

3) The top tranny mount we used is the 90-93 integra mount and also the 94+ teg mount works. Whoever said you can use a civic mount has never done this swap. The motor still sits on a small angle because you need an aftermarket TOP Tranny mount so I'd recomend buying the one from http://www.jdmshit.com and it will be a shorter mount raising your motor to the proper level as it should sit.

4) If you want to run the stock LS cable tranny, you will need to switch the VSS sensor from the hydraulic transmission to the cable tranny. Basically it's 1- 10mm or 12mm bolt holding it in. Once you undo the bolt you can take the VSS mechanism out and put it into the cable transmission.

5) The stock 90-93 Integra shift linkage works properly but sits about 1 inch farther away then the stock civic so you can deal with it or get the shift linkage extended.

6) DON'T USE THE STOCK INTEGRA CLUTCH CABLE!!! just pickup the conversion peice from http://www.jdmshit.com

7) You can use the 90-93 Integra gas pedal linkage

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We tried to do this swap using as much stock civic mounts as we could(owner of the car neglected to get the proper mounts on time) so we had to try to see what we could do.

using the driver side 92 integra mount and the integra top tranny mount the motor sat in there but on an angle and a bit off so the mounts required NEED to be purchased in order for the motor to sit properly

I will update this thread in the next few days after all the final bugs are worked out with the swap and will update everybody of any changes.


bart

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I really hope for your sake you didn't keep the cable transmission..

 

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for my sake?
yes the cable transmission was kept

 

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for my sake?
yes the cable transmission was kept </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, for your sake. The cable B series transmissions are total ***.

 

im planning on putting an A1 in place of my B1 swap and on the A1 block the oil pressure sensor has 2 pins whereas the B1 has a 1-pin sensor, can you just swap a 1-pin sensor in there or what?

 

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Yes, for your sake. The cable B series transmissions are total ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>


well it wasn't my swap. Personally I am doing this swap once comes spring but running a b-series sir cable/hydro transmission.

u got your opinion..I got mine

 

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if the sensor is removable yes you can put in the 1-pin to accomidate your wiring harness.

 

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well it wasn't my swap. Personally I am doing this swap once comes spring but running a b-series sir cable/hydro transmission.

u got your opinion..I got mine</TD></TR></TABLE>

after fixing countless cable trannies from the infamous 3rd gear grinds to broken shift forks and loss of gears, yeah.. I guess you could call that an opinion..

 

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if the sensor is removable yes you can put in the 1-pin to accomidate your wiring harness. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Except what he is talking about is the thermo switch for the fan, not the oil pressure unit. The A1's in the gen2 tegs used the two pin giant switch to also control the fan. You just simply don't hook it up at all for this swap. It won't be used.


Modified by Hybrid93Eg at 6:54 PM 12/22/2005