Just curious how much did adding traction bars drop your 60'? let me know i'm looking into getting the L-Con's

 

bump cuz i'd like to know as well

 

bump

 

I got a FR traction bar and ran a 2.20 60' @ 50 degress with brand new BFG's, but it was my first time with my 6-puck and ACT flywheel, so wasn't used to it yet...I also have Hasports...I used to run 2.4's...I'll definitely break into 2.1x's, but looking for 2.0x's on street tires....

 

sorry to bust your bubble but they dont realy do anything at all..... 1.55 w/o traction bars and 1.58 with them sorry guys

 

I'm not tryin to say you don't know what your doing but here's my expierience. 60'fts before 1.91, after L-con and bushing kit 1.64 soon to be 1.5's! Keep in mind anyone that can get down into the 1.5's like this gentlemen knows what's up, But they have been proven to work on many applications, all depends on how you apply it and work it in. For a street car no doubt they help a ridiculous amount! Kenneth street races for a living, "LIVING" and he swear's by L-con t-bars! Food for thought.

 

Its really hard to determine I think. They're not designed to give you more traction but their purpose it to help eliminate wheel hop.

 

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exactly what i was going to say

 

yes, but less wheel hop usually means better 60'

 

it'll vary depending on the car. Some cars really need them, others really don't. I'm getting a set just to eliminate the stress wheel hop causes on your drivetrane. If 60' times improve too, great, but that's not why I'm getting them.

 

i ran 2.0 60 ft wit 17s and 40 serie tires, then added traction bars and 23 inch slicks and got a 1.85. not much of a gain for over $700 in costs.
the biggest differnece was launching at 6k rpm instead of 3.8k.

 

in general cars with slicks usually dont get wheel hop so it seems to me that traction bars are juss good for ppl on street tires or drag radials...

 

that i what i have been seeing so far. but it is nice launching ont eh street with massive wheel spin and no hop

 

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thanks for the comments but what your talking about is wheel hop .dont you think you can accomplish this with solid bushings and caster adjustments ? but i do think it works for others but in my case it seems to be added weight for me..
p.s. you did a good jod this weekend brazil....

 

ghost: what kind of slicks are you using? what rpm's are you launching at? your numbers look bitching

 

26x8.5x15 m/t 6800rpm this is accomplished mostly by the clutch im running .its a rps turbo clutch and it does the job real well i have tried many other cluches and i know from experiance that this is the clutch of 05' 500+hp 500 ft lbs tq. with stock axles and only broke one so far about 40 passes on them now...

 

Ran 1.61 without bars...

 

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because traction bars don't do anything when you have slicks

 

i do think that they work very well on crx and crossmember built cars like them.because they have this huge rubber bushing in the front that just sucks. if i can find my vid of a couple of rexs doing burnouts and lunches you can see the difference traction bars make on these cars . also like to mention that the wieght reduction on this also.
i use to help test them when noone knew about them when climax built these in 98' then bill got screwed into showing the guys a compitition eng. and they copied them now everyone is making them. climax also make tubular crossmembers(this is where the racknpinion bolts on the and the rear mount) and lower arms too. we were talking wieght reduction in the 100lbs in suspension mass
we still have the jigs for these crossmembers for crx and 92-95 civ and integras if anyone is intrested but we fear that they might be copied too so they are currently getting them pat.


Modified by GHOSTWORKS at 7:27 PM 4/19/2005

 

Bars alone don't make a huge difference. Getting a good 60' is like everything else, all about the combination. All the components have to work together to maintain the tire. Some cars have worse problems then others and the bars help more on those. If you went from 1.9 to a 1.6 it wasn't the bars.