New 600 bike or used r1?
Just wanted people's opinion to see what they would do. I am soon to sell my 03 r6, but i can't decide what i want next. Im either gonna be buying a brand new 600cc/750cc bike for around 7k-8k (cbrRR/GSXR) or a used 02 R1 for around 7k. (disregarding insurance and finance issues.)
I'd get the 600. \
Almost everyone at our level will be faster on a 600 than a liter bike - we don't have the talent/experience to use all that the liter bike's got to offer.
Almost everyone at our level will be faster on a 600 than a liter bike - we don't have the talent/experience to use all that the liter bike's got to offer.
Why you seeling the '03 R6??? I've had the chance to ride one many times, and quite frankly, I think it's a great bike! The 2005 line up for the 600 class is unreal, but nothing major compared to the '03 R6.
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Unless you get a new GSXR 750, then it won't be worth selling your bike IMO.
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Unless you get a new GSXR 750, then it won't be worth selling your bike IMO.
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But not everyone takes their bike to the track, or cares to. Not to start any E-beef, as thats not my intention, I'm going to assume you've never ridden a liter bike.
After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
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But not everyone takes their bike to the track, or cares to. Not to start any E-beef, as thats not my intention, I'm going to assume you've never ridden a liter bike.
After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
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After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6.
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I agree, once you own a liter bike, it's hard to live without one. Ever since my 954 came up missing, I've been debating whether I'll be looking to replace it. A big part of me says not to since I already own a 600 (mainly for track-days), but I know I'll be missing that liter torque not found in the 600. Hitting the gas hard from a stop to 160+mph is unreal on a liter bike. It's a TRUE rush! I love it!!!
But, I still believe that the '03 R6 is a nice bike. Unless someone wants a liter bike or 750, I wouldn't trade it up for another 600. Not worth forking up the extra dough.
After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6.
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I agree, once you own a liter bike, it's hard to live without one. Ever since my 954 came up missing, I've been debating whether I'll be looking to replace it. A big part of me says not to since I already own a 600 (mainly for track-days), but I know I'll be missing that liter torque not found in the 600. Hitting the gas hard from a stop to 160+mph is unreal on a liter bike. It's a TRUE rush! I love it!!!
But, I still believe that the '03 R6 is a nice bike. Unless someone wants a liter bike or 750, I wouldn't trade it up for another 600. Not worth forking up the extra dough.
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I vote R1
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But not everyone takes their bike to the track, or cares to. Not to start any E-beef, as thats not my intention, I'm going to assume you've never ridden a liter bike.
After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
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That's funny.. most of my friends have liter bikes and most of them want an R6 to either track or go ***** out at the canyons 'cause their 1K have to pampered around the tighter coners. Way more chance of a nasty high side on a liter IMO. They say it's a lot more fun to ring the **** out of a 6 than to baby a liter. I agree after riding a few liter bikes.
I learned on a CBR900RR and I know that it's not nearly as nasty as the newer 1k's but it still definitely more agressive than any new 6. I've gotta agree with the everyday power tho.. it's like comparing driving a 4cyl versus a torquey 8cyl. But even with that, if you have a razor sharp ITR and you're driving it through the canyon's its a lot more rewarding to me than driving a new Corvette which can get real hairy real fast. I'm no pro racer.
After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's funny.. most of my friends have liter bikes and most of them want an R6 to either track or go ***** out at the canyons 'cause their 1K have to pampered around the tighter coners. Way more chance of a nasty high side on a liter IMO. They say it's a lot more fun to ring the **** out of a 6 than to baby a liter. I agree after riding a few liter bikes.
I learned on a CBR900RR and I know that it's not nearly as nasty as the newer 1k's but it still definitely more agressive than any new 6. I've gotta agree with the everyday power tho.. it's like comparing driving a 4cyl versus a torquey 8cyl. But even with that, if you have a razor sharp ITR and you're driving it through the canyon's its a lot more rewarding to me than driving a new Corvette which can get real hairy real fast. I'm no pro racer.
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But not everyone takes their bike to the track, or cares to. Not to start any E-beef, as thats not my intention, I'm going to assume you've never ridden a liter bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've ridden a 916 and a 996 and currently own a 900SS.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
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I see what your point is and you're right, not everyone tracks their bikes and that's fine but the caution in my post doesn't just apply to tracking, it applies to riding; as mentioned above, highsiding a 180 hp bike is a little easier than a 130 hp bike. But I could probably highside a pocketbike soit goes without saying.
WRT riding around town, I could see how a Japanese liter bike would be more user friendly, but coming off L twins, I'm used to smooth , linear power delivery so that aspect didn't come to mind.
But not everyone takes their bike to the track, or cares to. Not to start any E-beef, as thats not my intention, I'm going to assume you've never ridden a liter bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've ridden a 916 and a 996 and currently own a 900SS.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After owning my '01 R6 for almost 2 years, and then getting my current '01 R1, I can tell you with 100% certainty, I would not go back to the R6. I use my bike to cruise around, take out to the backroads/twisties, and get from A to B on nice days, and the R1 does all those better than the R6. Power delivery is much smoother, and it is a more comfortable bike IMO. I'm sure someone a little less lengthty (I am 6' 155lbs) would feel more at home on a 600cc, but for my stature a R1 feels much more natural. Ontop of that, the previous owner of my R1 had a complete Ohnlin's suspension installed, which makes it feel much more nuetral and balanced in corners compared to my R6.
If this was a road-racing forum for motorcycles, I would agree with your statement.
I vote R1
</TD></TR></TABLE>I see what your point is and you're right, not everyone tracks their bikes and that's fine but the caution in my post doesn't just apply to tracking, it applies to riding; as mentioned above, highsiding a 180 hp bike is a little easier than a 130 hp bike. But I could probably highside a pocketbike soit goes without saying.
WRT riding around town, I could see how a Japanese liter bike would be more user friendly, but coming off L twins, I'm used to smooth , linear power delivery so that aspect didn't come to mind.
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