just wounderin i see alot of h22 swaps goin on and h22 turbo setups and f22 turbos and f22dohc setups..i kinda want somthing differnet. just wounderin if anyone has everdone an f22b1 all motor setup? any info would be helpful..ive researched and researched on the net forums and find nothing. the only thing ive found has been like gude bullfrog cam and head packages..but i hear that their regrinds are weak and u dont get much power from them and they are overproced...so anyone have any sugestions???i dont want a swap or turbo i want an all motor f22b1..i hear sohcs are real good for roadrace and good launches..thnx fdor yalls times

 

try an H22.

 

bahhhhh,no everyone goes wit swaps,,hate trends and followers i prefer to go with the harder no one has done things or very lil ppl do it.

 

f22 can put out some decent power...I can appreciate you wanting to do something different .

Here is a LONG thread on a f22a1 motor: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=1029

Very good thread and I think he made some decent power . There are a couple differences between the f22a and f22b1, mainly is vtec and a couple other minor things but esentially they are the same motor. Hopefully that gets ya started.

I would start with a mild port and polish, new cam, cam gear, possible custom intake manifold or h23 manifold w/throttle body, smsp header, upgraded ecu or reprogrammed one etc etc.

GL and keep us updated .

 

it hasnt been done by anyone because it isnt practical (i.e its stupid/waste of money). you will spend more then what an h22 is worth to get an f22 to produce numbers that an h22 does.

 

stupid? dont think that the word for it .perhaps it is a waste of time. and money but i rather have somthing original than have a copycat. more pride on somthin u did then u copied. i will prob switch to h22 in future but for now i want to get as much info as i can on the f22 platform. but thankx for opinion, ive researched cams and find close to nothin. so ill keep goin ..im give jgengine dynamics a call and see wut they think..

 

If you gonna build the F22. Build it for boost. Because you wont get that much power N/A. But if you build it for boost you can get decent numbers for pretty cheap.

 

get a h22 tranny on ur f22.

 

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That is subjective...honestly decent power can be made from the f22; it comes down to how much power is wanting to be had and what the persons budget is. The OP asked for information making a f22 NA, not if you thought it was economically "ok" for him to do.

 

im just getttin information,,this site is alot more helpful than other sites..ppl prefer to flame than to help.hmm. but yes, all i am doin is lookin at info..i know f22s are not good to build thats why EVERYONE goes swap..i think if i can start out with all bolt ons and then do a port and polish and vlave job. i can get ok pwer..???... and after start loookin for internals,,just doin my hmwork b4 i take on a project that i cant finish.

 

F22b1 is a good and reliable engine. Its vtek and its defenetly a way to be original going NA on it. BUT, unfortunately I havent seeen any f22b1 cross the 230whp mark NA. So all that money and labor just to have a 13 sec car.... blaaah not worth it.

 

yea i know i prob wont breeak 220 na but another thing i havent seen and was goin to ask about was a supercharger..turbos &lt;&lt;&lt;everyone has them...swaps&lt;&lt;everyones doin them.. f22b1 na&lt;&lt;not many(only dumbasses like me want to do it) and f22b1 supercharged&lt;&lt;havent seen one, heard of one, or think there is one. but i want to see wut the possibilitys of superchargin an f22b1. any comments are welcome,,and to start off yes im stupid dumb have no paint on mybumpers need new rims and am a noob,,but im tryin to lern so *** off unless u can give helpful advise.

 

i think a supercharger would compliment the F22 well. however, if you can't get a kit with an intercooler, you need to get some other method of cooling the intake charge (i.e., water injection). getting a centrifugal blower would give you essentially the same powerband as a turbo, so if you are considering a centrifugal blower, reconsider a turbo. i know jackson racing makes an accord kit, which (i think) uses a roots-type blower. i drove an integra gs-r with one of these, and instead of feeling like a boosted engine, the linear response feels like you simply have more displacement . my only problem with these blowers is that they offer no compatibility with intercoolers, leaving water injection as one of few options to cool the intake charge.

 

youre right about hard to find intercoolers for them,and the jacksons racin one is only for v6s&lt;&lt;6s sux....lol,but i have yet to see one on a 4 banger accord..but wonderin if i fully build the engine as na,,will i then later be able to turbo or super charge it?

 

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You wanna be different? You wanna do something nobody has done before?

How about N/A 5th gen D16 accord!!!! Woahhh That would be new and exciting.

 

dont think the displacement of a d16 is strong enough to push an accord. even wit alot of pwr

 

i am pretty sure he was being sarcastic. anyway, i am not sure they have it anymore, but i am almost positive that jackson racing used to make a 5th gen 4-cyl supercharger. look around; maybe its out there. BTW, because a JRSC replaces the intake manifold, an intercooler is incompatible. to the best of my knowledge, water injection is your only feasible option (but still a good one) to cool your intake.