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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Does anyone have any install pics of a mini me on a sohc zc block? I want to do a mini me swap but Im a little bit unsure of it if anyone has any install pic please post them thanks..
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Yeah I was curious about this as well. Bump.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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It shouldn't be any different from doing the conversion on any other non-vtec bottom end. Have you tried searching?
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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alot of people here will say its a waste of time, too much crap to make it work, only to have gasket problem...

and in all honesty they are kinda right...

theres only one guy on here that did something similar he put a ZC head on a sohc vtec block (his name is like "baseballinmyass", sorry im too lazy to search), so im sure u can do it backwards, but by that time and money u could have purchased a regular ZC...
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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A mini-me with a stock z6/y8 head typically makes around 125-130hp.
From the stock a6 108hp, +20hp is a reasonable improvement.
But the sohc ZC already makes 118hp.
So unless you are talking about using a modifed/port & polished vtec head, the +10 hp is not worth the labor involved in a head swap to most people.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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Cylinder Head/ Cylinder Block/ Compression
Z6/ Z6/ 9.13:1
Z6/ Y8/ 9.29:1
Z6/ A6/ 9.95:1
Z6/ ZC/ 12.03:1
Z6/ D15(ALL)/ 10.10:1
Z6/ Y7/ 9.62:1
Y8/ Z6/ 9.45:1
Y8/ A6/ 10.33:1
Y8/ ZC/ 12.61:1
Y8/ D15(ALL)/ 10.52:1
Y8/ Y7/ 9.96:1

Would be a pretty sick little SOHC IMO, You should do it.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:36 AM
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Wanna do this with my ZC, but looking at it now...I don't wanna pay for premium gas just to avoid detonation with my 12:1 CR. Thats ******' crazy. ZC turbo here I come!
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chilpyl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wanna do this with my ZC, but looking at it now...I don't wanna pay for premium gas just to avoid detonation with my 12:1 CR. Thats ******' crazy. ZC turbo here I come!</TD></TR></TABLE>

12.1 is just fine for 91.. You don't think you need premium gas with boost?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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Where did you get those figures?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cylinder Head/ Cylinder Block/ Compression
Z6/ Z6/ 9.13:1
Z6/ Y8/ 9.29:1
Z6/ A6/ 9.95:1
Z6/ ZC/ 12.03:1
Z6/ D15(ALL)/ 10.10:1
Z6/ Y7/ 9.62:1
Y8/ Z6/ 9.45:1
Y8/ A6/ 10.33:1
Y8/ ZC/ 12.61:1
Y8/ D15(ALL)/ 10.52:1
Y8/ Y7/ 9.96:1

Would be a pretty sick little SOHC IMO, You should do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where did you get those figures?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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I agree I use premium gas anyways so that's not an issue.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Someone on here told me the 12:1 c/r is because DOHC ZC pistons are used. Using a SOHC ZC block is exactly the same as a A6 block.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviate_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone on here told me the 12:1 c/r is because DOHC ZC pistons are used. Using a SOHC ZC block is exactly the same as a A6 block.</TD></TR></TABLE> Exactly Someone here uses both lobes of the brain.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Isn't the compression a little higher on a sohc zc than an A6?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicflow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't the compression a little higher on a sohc zc than an A6?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe by a point, if at all. Adding a VTEC head will give you more compression for sure though.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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This is what I was getting at...the sohc zc and a6 are identical except for the cam. The compression on both is 9.1:1
From what I can tell, the sohc zc will not be 12:1

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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Only discernible difference between the A6 and The "I am a D16A6 but if you put JDM in front of the name I cost four times what I am worth" is the exhaust lobe on the camshaft and possibly a more aggressive fuel map, but we won't know until someone can provide an authentic ECU.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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I already have a sohc zc in my car but i want to do the mini me swap that's all it doesn't matter if the compression is higher or not well not to me anyways.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A mini-me with a stock z6/y8 head typically makes around 125-130hp.
From the stock a6 108hp, +20hp is a reasonable improvement.
But the sohc ZC already makes 118hp.
So unless you are talking about using a modifed/port & polished vtec head, the +10 hp is not worth the labor involved in a head swap to most people.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is so hard about making it work from what I can understand its a pretty easy thing to do..
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A mini-me with a stock z6/y8 head typically makes around 125-130hp.
From the stock a6 108Whp, +20hp is a reasonable improvement.
But the sohc ZC already makes 118hp.
So unless you are talking about using a modifed/port & polished vtec head, the +10 hp is not worth the labor involved in a head swap to most people.</TD></TR></TABLE> This is my theory on why the ZC and the A6 are the same - look here - Read it and weep
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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if you pull apart a sohc zc it even uses the pm6 code on the pistons and the head.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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I'm was saying its a lot of work for just 10 hp.
If it only gave you 5hp, would you still do it? You need to decide where to draw the line...
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted_hatch_216 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you pull apart a sohc zc it even uses the pm6 code on the pistons and the head. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes I've heard but the mini me swap should still work the same right?
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davens &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm was saying its a lot of work for just 10 hp.
If it only gave you 5hp, would you still do it? You need to decide where to draw the line...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand I just would like to ad vtec to my engine
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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ive heard its not as noticiable on the sohc as it is on a dohc motor. just stick with the stock head and upgrade the springs and retainers and valves. (more expensive but better top end). and port match everything. use a y8 manifold and a h22 or b18 tb. stick an i/h/e and tune it with a chipped ecu and add a light weight flwheel and thatd be pretty close to as good as your gonna get without going bigger on cam and into the bottom end.
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