Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good??
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Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good??
hello,
anyone tried these with success, im a bit worried about the amount of oil it allows back into the lower part of the sump. it looks very good at keeping it in.
check http://www.fastlineperformance.com
cheers
jim
anyone tried these with success, im a bit worried about the amount of oil it allows back into the lower part of the sump. it looks very good at keeping it in.
check http://www.fastlineperformance.com
cheers
jim
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (gymrite)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gymrite »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello,
anyone tried these with success, im a bit worried about the amount of oil it allows back into the lower part of the sump. it looks very good at keeping it in.
check http://www.fastlineperformance.com
cheers
jim</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are not low on oil there will not be any issues.....we have sold qite a few with no issues, just happy customers!
anyone tried these with success, im a bit worried about the amount of oil it allows back into the lower part of the sump. it looks very good at keeping it in.
check http://www.fastlineperformance.com
cheers
jim</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are not low on oil there will not be any issues.....we have sold qite a few with no issues, just happy customers!
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (MrHeeltoe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrHeeltoe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you are not low on oil there will not be any issues.....we have sold qite a few with no issues, just happy customers!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have been curious myself. I know it is the cheap way to make the Mugen version of the OEM oilpan.
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.
If you are not low on oil there will not be any issues.....we have sold qite a few with no issues, just happy customers!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have been curious myself. I know it is the cheap way to make the Mugen version of the OEM oilpan.
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (hybrid_vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I have been curious myself. I know it is the cheap way to make the Mugen version of the OEM oilpan.
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, when the pan is full, there is more than enough oil to fill the sump. Even with baffles installed, it is important to realize that there is more in that than just in the bottom. Also, the pickup is at the very floor of the pan. And as quickly as oil is sucked up into the engine, it is deposited back into the pan at an equal rate. When the oil goes back into the pan, it is not being deposited in one spot far over in the shallow end of the pan, it dumps all over the place, much of the oil even falls directly into the opening of the sump!
Also, consider how quickly and easily oil moves around and fills the pan....maybe you have spilled oil before and noticed is moves kinda slow because it is viscous. When it is in the engine though, in a racing condition like weare talking about, the oil is hot. HOT OIL FLOWS ALMOST LIKE WATER! It flows fast and fills the sump quickly!
In order for your engine to starve, way more than half the oil would have to be missing from the sump. I am not sure how much oil the engine actually uses at one time, but I doubt if it is more than 2 quarts. I am hard pressed to think that you would have a problem under any conditions, excecpt if you actualy were low on oil! Running out of oil by leaking or burning could hardly be the fault of the oil pan baffles!
I have been curious myself. I know it is the cheap way to make the Mugen version of the OEM oilpan.
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, when the pan is full, there is more than enough oil to fill the sump. Even with baffles installed, it is important to realize that there is more in that than just in the bottom. Also, the pickup is at the very floor of the pan. And as quickly as oil is sucked up into the engine, it is deposited back into the pan at an equal rate. When the oil goes back into the pan, it is not being deposited in one spot far over in the shallow end of the pan, it dumps all over the place, much of the oil even falls directly into the opening of the sump!
Also, consider how quickly and easily oil moves around and fills the pan....maybe you have spilled oil before and noticed is moves kinda slow because it is viscous. When it is in the engine though, in a racing condition like weare talking about, the oil is hot. HOT OIL FLOWS ALMOST LIKE WATER! It flows fast and fills the sump quickly!
In order for your engine to starve, way more than half the oil would have to be missing from the sump. I am not sure how much oil the engine actually uses at one time, but I doubt if it is more than 2 quarts. I am hard pressed to think that you would have a problem under any conditions, excecpt if you actualy were low on oil! Running out of oil by leaking or burning could hardly be the fault of the oil pan baffles!
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (MrHeeltoe)
Thanks but I still may use one anyway. I mean for $20 and I can weld it in myself. It isnt a bad mod to have for those just in case!
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (hybrid_vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks but I still may use one anyway. I mean for $20 and I can weld it in myself. It isnt a bad mod to have for those just in case!</TD></TR></TABLE>
but you still may use one anyway? what do you mean?
I am trying to speak in support of the baffles...
but you still may use one anyway? what do you mean?
I am trying to speak in support of the baffles...
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (hybrid_vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah , while simultaneously preventing fast drainback WHEN the oil gets on top of the baffles.
Hence the reason I dont run fixed baffles on anything RR/AX related.
I have been curious b/c on the track(auto-x/roadrace) can't the oil move to one side and allow teh pump to starve. I thought this was the reason for this piece; so it prevents that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah , while simultaneously preventing fast drainback WHEN the oil gets on top of the baffles.
Hence the reason I dont run fixed baffles on anything RR/AX related.
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (MrHeeltoe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrHeeltoe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
but you still may use one anyway? what do you mean?
I am trying to speak in support of the baffles...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh my bad, I think we got confused on each other statments
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah , while simultaneously preventing fast drainback WHEN the oil gets on top of the baffles.
Hence the reason I dont run fixed baffles on anything RR/AX related.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good point, but why does Mugan and other companies run this?
but you still may use one anyway? what do you mean?
I am trying to speak in support of the baffles...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh my bad, I think we got confused on each other statments
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah , while simultaneously preventing fast drainback WHEN the oil gets on top of the baffles.
Hence the reason I dont run fixed baffles on anything RR/AX related.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good point, but why does Mugan and other companies run this?
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (hybrid_vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
good point, but why does Mugen and other companies run this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
someone did it , others copied it. thats the cycle.
its also much easier than engineering a trapdoor setup like I did.
good point, but why does Mugen and other companies run this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
someone did it , others copied it. thats the cycle.
its also much easier than engineering a trapdoor setup like I did.
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (Doctor CorteZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
someone did it , others copied it. thats the cycle.
its also much easier than engineering a trapdoor setup like I did.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What do you mean a "trapdoor setup"?
someone did it , others copied it. thats the cycle.
its also much easier than engineering a trapdoor setup like I did.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What do you mean a "trapdoor setup"?
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (hybrid_vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you mean a "trapdoor setup"?</TD></TR></TABLE>
lemme find the pics.
here ya go. I havent done them for a while though , too busy.
lemme find the pics.
here ya go. I havent done them for a while though , too busy.
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (Doctor CorteZ)
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lemme find the pics.
here ya go. I havent done them for a while though , too busy.
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How much to do one of those setups?
What are the benefits?
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lemme find the pics.
here ya go. I havent done them for a while though , too busy.
</TD></TR></TABLE>How much to do one of those setups?
What are the benefits?
email me: Hybrid_vtec@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (Doctor CorteZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I charged 125 if you sent me your pan.
the advantage is fast drainback AND fore/aft baffling.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks really nice! Costs a lot more than $80 that I charge, but is debatably better.
The only arguement I have heard agains trap door designs is the possibility of smashing the pan and jamming the doors, thus drasitcally restricting flow to the pickup.
the advantage is fast drainback AND fore/aft baffling.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks really nice! Costs a lot more than $80 that I charge, but is debatably better.
The only arguement I have heard agains trap door designs is the possibility of smashing the pan and jamming the doors, thus drasitcally restricting flow to the pickup.
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (MrHeeltoe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrHeeltoe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks really nice! Costs a lot more than $80 that I charge, but is debatably better.
The only arguement I have heard agains trap door designs is the possibility of smashing the pan and jamming the doors, thus drasitcally restricting flow to the pickup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and you would smash the pan by bottoming out your car, for example???
sorry for my ignorance..pls shed some light
The only arguement I have heard agains trap door designs is the possibility of smashing the pan and jamming the doors, thus drasitcally restricting flow to the pickup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and you would smash the pan by bottoming out your car, for example???
sorry for my ignorance..pls shed some light
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Re: Fastline perfromace oil baffles, any good?? (EVOL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVOL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you would smash the pan by bottoming out your car, for example???
sorry for my ignorance..pls shed some light</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, or running over something......not saying it would happen and that the pan is a bad idea.....just that it can happen, and I am sure it has happened in the past....
sorry for my ignorance..pls shed some light
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, or running over something......not saying it would happen and that the pan is a bad idea.....just that it can happen, and I am sure it has happened in the past....
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