First, I did search but after pages of nothing that answered my question I figured I would go ahead and post. If it is posted and I missed it in my searching, I am very sorry. Now for the question.

I have a 94 integra ls. I bought the shell and it is in good shape. I am now putting in a motor and tranny. I also have a 92 ls, it is totaled but runs like a champ. As you are already guessing, I am putting the 92 motor and tranny in the 94. I am using a obd1 intake and harness, computer on the 92 block/head. My question pertains to the tranny. I know they make the hydro to cable conversion kits and vice versa but what if I want to use the cable assembly in the 94. My reasoning is this: first, it is readily available: second, I have driven both cable and hydro tranny cars and I like the cable better. Why? I dont know, I just think it feels better. I know the rest, it is just this one thing. Sorry for the long post but I felt I should clarify my reasonings before it is asked anyways. thanks in advance.

 

and your question would be...?

 

Sorry, I guess I kind of sneaked the question in the middle of a sentence.
"what if I want to use the cable assembly in the 94"

Basically I need to know if I can remove the hydrolic assembly and run the clutch cable inside the car to the pedal and hook it up. I was thinking I may need to use the 92's pedal assembly but I just want to verify that I am on the right track. Look before you leap. Right? Just doing my research first.

 

I think what he's trying to ask instead of getting the hydro to cable conversion, can he just swap over ALL the parts from his DA to this DC, since he has the full DA with all the cable parts...

Am I right wanahonda?

As for my opinion, I really can't answer it with confidence, but I would <guess> that with all the components off the DA, it would be possible. If you used the DA clutch pedal assembly, then that takes care of hooking up the one end of the cable. Since the other end goes to the already cable tranny, that takes care of that. You can still route the cable through the engine compartment and use the OEM brackets too.

So the only thing I can possibly think is, as I look at an old clutch cable I have, that the metal retaining washer thing towards the end that goes to the pedal. It might have to mount somewhere to keep tension, etc on the cable. But I think it's do-able if you want to try.

Good luck

-- Kevin

 

Thats exactly what I am asking! Thanks. I am pretty sure but I like to have someone behind me who is pretty sure too. You know what I mean? The metal retaining washer you speak of that is on the pedal end, does it not attach to some kind of arm that is part of the pedal assembly? I just want to see if we are talking about the same part. Thanks again.

 

On the pedal end, about 1 1/2" up, is a, what I describe as, a washer looking thing with a black gasket on one side, and a protective rubber boot on the other side. If I remember correctly, that rests against something down there to keep the tension. But I installed the cable months ago so it's not quite fresh in my mind. If you need a pic, I can get you one tomorrow or something.

HTH

-- Kevin

 

I would really appreciate that. I could look myself but the car is a hour away but i am going down this weekend to swap the motors. It may not run if I do not have the harness and manifold yet, but I hope to get at least this much done. Thanks for all your help and I will check back tomorrow.

 

Ok here we go:


I've circled in red the area I have been trying to describe. I think it has to rest against something. Whether it's the firewall or clutch pedal assembly, I don't remember since it's been months since I installed it. If I remember to check tomorrow on mine, I will. Also, the rubber boot goes on the engine side of the firewall, and in fact fits into the firewall.


The part that I had said could still use the OEM bracket to route it properly through the engine compartment.


The part that of course goes to the tranny. No changes needed as you'll be using the cable tranny with the proper mounts, etc.


A pic of the whole clutch cable. Just for reference.

That's it for now, I'll have to check back tomorrow nite after work.

-- Kevin

 

Dude, thank you so much. It all makes sense now and I know exactly what to do. Thank you.

 

I just learned something new. 92 and 93 Da Tegs are obd1. This is awesome. That means since I am converting to cable clutch everthing else should plug and play, right? One thing I am worried about though, the vss. The 92 has a cable and 94 electronic. I know I can just change that out but where is the plug for it? Is it on the engine harness? If so, that means I would have to change the harness. Would my injectors and everything else be okay? Someone let me know please. This is the last thing in my way. Then again, not really I could live without speedo but it sure would be nice.

 

Bump so I can go to bed. Anyone know?

 

Good morning all. Any of you morning people know the answer to question? I have been at work for 2 hours know and can't get **** accomplished because I have teg on the brain. Where does the vss plug come from?
Engine harness or what. I guess maybe in a different form, can I use the 92 da teg harness since it is obd1. Will all my connections still be present, especially the vss plug. Thanks.
Good morning.

 

Btw, in case you didn't read the whole thread, which is cool with me, it is a 94 teg.

 

Go over to G2IC and check on there about doin the VSS for a DA. A few poeple have done it because using a G3 cluster, which of course uses the electric speed sensor vs our mechanical one. I barely remember something about accords VSS or something...

But since you already have the G3 tranny/wiring harness, I would assume there is some way to use the G3 VSS in the cable G2 tranny. Right now I'm just guessing. I mean hell they might bolt in/install the same, and I wouldn't even know. It's something I never researched or even really read up on, other then the above statement about the accord VSS.

As for all the OBD 1 stuff on the DA and the DC, yah it's all plug and play. Makes it real easy and convinient. When I say plug and play, I mean as in the plugs should be the same bc of the same OBDs, and there shouldn't be any additional sensors. Now I haven't actually researched putting a G2 engine in a G3, so again, what I'm saying now is just my thoughts, etc.

One last thing I would say to do is go over to G2IC and check out the teg tips. Go to the engine section, and click B-Series Engine Swap Guide. Check what is needed to swap a B18B1 (G3 RS/LS/GS) into a 92-93 Integra. That would sort of give you a backwards guide as to what you're doing...Makes sense right?

Ok well I'll check back later tonite, see what else you've found out.

-- Kevin

 

You are awesome, thanks. We are half way to my answer. I am using a electronic vss in the cable tranny. I am told they just bolt in. What I need to know is where the vss harness plug is. What harness is it part of? If it is part of the engine harness, it will not be on the da harness. See what I am getting at? I need verification that it is part of the engine harness or the one that runs through out the whole car and stays no matter what. I would look my self but the car is a hour away as previously stated. I am going to get it this weekend and start on it. I just want to get all my apples in a barrel before I start. Know what I mean?

 

Anyone else want to chime in? I just now need to know which harness the speed sensor plug is on. If it is the engine harness I will have to swap them and I really don't want to do that. Hopefully it is on the harness that stays in the car and runs everwhere(part of dash harness). I just need someone to verify.

 

Ok I don't have a G3 but I'm 99% sure that your VSS will be part of the engine harness. It kinda makes sense to me that that's where it would be, rather then a whole seperate, lonesome little harness of wires. And since this comes stock on a G3, and since you are using a G3 VSS, I don't forsee any problems at all.

Also, whether thru the ECU or directly to the gauge cluster, im also 99% sure it'll run right to it, no problem. I mean regardless, none of this should be a problem, since you are using the stock G3 wiring harness. All this stuff we are talking about is already on there and wired up and everything. So I wouldn't think any of these things would be problems.

Speaking of which, everything else should hook up too. Distributor, sensors, fuel injectors (I would assume) etc. I don't forsee any problems.

Well I'll check back later again, see what's up.

-- Kevin

 

Thanks man, everything you said is one hundred percent right. I got off work early yesterday and drove down there. I checked all the connections to see if everything fit. Everything is accounted for. Even the speed sensor bolted right into the cable tranny. Thanks for all your help. Maybe this will help someone else someday too.