hey guys whats the difference between the 4 puck and the 6 puck disc? which would would grab harder with just hte heavey duty pressure plate? pro's and con's of each? thanks guys

 

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6 puck is overdoing it

 

iv always thought that the four puck would grab harder htan the 6 puck. anyone else care to elaborate?

 

i've got a 6 puck and a prolight and i drive my car everyday, I think 4 puck grabs harder but i look at it this way, Im plannin ahead so no matter what i do th cluthc is 1 less thing i have 2 worrk about cause a 6 puck aint slippin...............At all.

 

Doesnt a 6 puck clutch chatter?

 

6PUCK CHATTERS AND I HAVE A 4PUCK IN MY CAR WHICH CHATTERS ALSO, BUT THEN I WOULD SAY IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH POWER U WANNA PUSH. FOR ME I'M RUNNING MY 4DR LS ON STOCK BOOST AND IT HOLDS JUST GOD, ALSO IT DEPENDS ON WHA KINDA DRIVIN U DO, CUZ SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A BITCH WHEN IN TRAFFIC BUT I TEND TO GET USED TO IT, I I WOULD SAY GET A FLYWHEEL ALSO CUZ I GOT A FINDANZA 7.5LB IN MY TEG AN U FEEL SUCH A SWEET DIFFERENCE.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crix868 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">6PUCK CHATTERS AND I HAVE A 4PUCK IN MY CAR WHICH CHATTERS ALSO, BUT THEN I WOULD SAY IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH POWER U WANNA PUSH. FOR ME I'M RUNNING MY 4DR LS ON STOCK BOOST AND IT HOLDS JUST GOD, ALSO IT DEPENDS ON WHA KINDA DRIVIN U DO, CUZ SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A BITCH WHEN IN TRAFFIC BUT I TEND TO GET USED TO IT, I I WOULD SAY GET A FLYWHEEL ALSO CUZ I GOT A FINDANZA 7.5LB IN MY TEG AN U FEEL SUCH A SWEET DIFFERENCE.</TD></TR></TABLE>


try lower case on ur 6th post...hwo does the 4 puck grab?

 

it grabs really quick u cant really drive it like a stock clutch. mines is a quick release so if u try drivin like a stock clutch shyt aint gonna be fun. but the thing i like bout it is how i jus gotta tap the clutch to engage.

 

out of the 6 puck and the 4 puck which one would be more suited for a 00 gsr with i/h/e/ crower 404's chipped p28 cam gears and head work with itr pistons?

 

you should be ok with the 4 puck because that is what i am using on my 4DR LS Turbo. if you are gonna use a lighter flywheel it will suck on low end power because it has a little lag cuz that is how my Findanza 7.5lb was just before i slapped that boost on my car.

 

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agreed

 

from everything i know and understand, why would you think that a 4-puck would be nicer to drive for an NA car? no NA 4-banger has enough power to outgrow a 6-puck, and a 6-puck with sprung disc will engage a lot better than the spring-less ACT 4-puck. do yourself a favor, man, and get yourself a sprung-hubbed clutch. unless you don't do traffic driving, or if you just don't drive the car often.

 

ok in a nutshell, the 4 puck is going to be harder to man handle in traffic and is going to grab harder than the 6 puck?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">out of the 6 puck and the 4 puck which one would be more suited for a 00 gsr with i/h/e/ crower 404's chipped p28 cam gears and head work with itr pistons?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the Crower 404's are for the non-vtec LS.

 

in my toher post about cams no one has told me that they are just for non vtec's, my cousin had them in his c1

 

crower does not list a 63404. no such thing. 62's are LS, 63's are VTEC, and there is no 63404. and yes, a 6-puck will be easier to slip, although nothing like a full-faced disc. if this is a street car that sees traffic, i say go with a nice full-faced disc. even the Exedy stage 1, although many clutch makers have full-faced discs that can handle over 300hp. if you have more than that, it probably is a nonsense street car that takes away the easy-to-drive nature of Hondas (but it's probably really fun anyways!).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95lstegman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from everything i know and understand, why would you think that a 4-puck would be nicer to drive for an NA car? no NA 4-banger has enough power to outgrow a 6-puck, and a 6-puck with sprung disc will engage a lot better than the spring-less ACT 4-puck. do yourself a favor, man, and get yourself a sprung-hubbed clutch. unless you don't do traffic driving, or if you just don't drive the car often.</TD></TR></TABLE>Don't believe the propaganda of some clutch companies. You are mistaken if you think a spring center will engage smoother. It wll actually make it chatter worse, not less. What the springs are designed to do is dampen the torsional vibrations so the trans will be quieter. They also provide a benefit to spline life on the hub of the disc. If a spring center disc is smoother than our solid center disc, it is likely because of the friction material being less aggressive and not because of the springs. I admit that the material we use on our race discs is pretty aggressive compared to some. Then again it holds more power from the higher friction coefficient and has some other good qualities for racing. We didn't design for street use.

The 4 and 6 puck basically hold the same power, but the 4 puck engages a little harder and shifts a bit quicker because it is lighter. The 6 puck is a bit smoother engaging (still not pleasant on the street), and will take more abuse because there is more material to distribute the heat.

 

sorry, i'll never see enough power to warrant any of those, and i did know that
1) ACT is the only 4/6-puck i know of w/o sprung hub
2) ACT 4/6-puck engages harder than others
by and large anyways. i've done a lot of research and for my NA car i'm going with Exedy Stage 1 kit. for many reasons, including a MUCH lower price, easier engagement, nice street manners, easier on my leg in traffic, and that stuff. but mostly b/c of price, really. i'm not a wimp about driving, and in general i like the race car on the street feel of stripped interior, loud exhaust, lopey idle, and stiff suspensions. sorry, Exedy's is at least $100 cheaper at worst, $150 at best.

 

if i were you, i'd go with the ACT HDSS (heavy duty pressure plate + full faced disc).. A LOT of people have used it and LOVED it... it will be more than enough for when you upgrade your motor, your clutch can still be utilized... the feel of i shouldn't be too bad...

as for me, going turbo, i'm going for XXR6 (max extreme pressure plate + 6 puck disc) for my street car... 4 puck is NOT streetable IMO, 6puck is stiff but many have also used it on the streets and loved it...

go to http://www.advancedclutch.com (act's website if you didn't already know)
i always refer there, they have great information that can answer your questions

 

I have the ACT HDSS (heavy duty pressure plate + full faced disc) on my DB2 and it's a nice clutch. For my car with bolt-on's it just fine. It's plenty stiff with the cable tranny i have. Although i'd be interested in a clutch that would last longer and take a lil more abuse for track days. Any suggestions ACTman? (not jacking thread)

 

puck clutches don't last worth a rat's ***. i've had puck clutches in all my setups and at most they've lasted one season. i guess it's just my driving habits

if your car is daily driven you should think about getting a sprung twin-disc or something similar. but then again, you'd have to sell your kidney to buy a decent twin-disc clutch. i know cause i had to do that to buy my OS GIKEN twin-disc setup.


old setup: ACT MAXX EXTREME PP, ACT PROLITE FW, ClutchNet Sprung 4 puck.
grabbed real hard but didn't last very long.

 

daily + occasional track.. i thought they're supposed to last approx 40k miles?

 

is the exedy stage 1 clutch and flywheel a nice clutch for just daily driving...i dont have many mods just ehaust, cai and some pulleys. i want something that pulls a little harder than the stock clutch and im either gonna upgrade this or try to get a gsr or b16 tranny. any suggestions?

sorry didnt mean to take teh thread from you

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ckehl13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the exedy stage 1 clutch and flywheel a nice clutch for just daily driving...i dont have many mods just ehaust, cai and some pulleys. i want something that pulls a little harder than the stock clutch and im either gonna upgrade this or try to get a gsr or b16 tranny. any suggestions?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, that's what i'm looking at in a couple months when i buy myself a clutch and flywheel, but i'm not a person who drops his clutch but maybe once a month, which is good b/c i'll be making about 165whp on it w/ LSD. i hope it lasts a while. i've actually been thinking about an autozone clutch for $150 since i'm not a drag racer at all. best price on earth, lifetime garauntee. stock clutch holds my redline shifts with 154whp, so i'd expect a new one to hold 165. mine is 4 years old, like 60k miles. and since i don't drop the clutch, the stock one has been wonderful. the pedal is so soft, my girlfriend refuses to drive it yay for me, i get to drive my car.