have a 95 LS-S teg 2d and wondering if i should just build the crap out of my ls block, or just go for something like a H22 or B18C1 swap. not sure what would be the best cause building my existing engine would cost as much as a gs-r engine so hmmm in a bit of a pick of el. any info would be much appreciated!

 

build + boost = teh win!

 

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very true

 

ford v-8 into the rear. only costs about 500 bucks and u scare little kids.

 

huh ford v8?

 

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I really hope that all of your 169 posts weren't this pointless and ignorant. IMO i agree with the build + boost b/c IF I had the money I would fully build my 95 LS + Boost it but I don't have that kinda money.

 

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man that would be fast?

302 0r 351?

 

agreed with build and boost

 

Buy a B20 for 400 bucks, and then boost it. Its good cuz you dont have to buy lower comp pistons, cuz the B20B already has em.

 

what about DH-Racing anybody heard anything good about there heads and blocks? they seem like they know what they are talking about just think i would like t oknow somebody who has delt with em! Fully built LS block with Turb would be dirty!!!

 

If you want to stay n/a then go for an H22 buildup!

But for f/i boost your current motor.

 

If I were you I would build the LS block for a turbo. Forged crank, rods, pistons. Then you get your cylinder head ported for a turbo application. You will probably need an ecu that can be tuned, AEM ems or something similar. Then turbo the sum bitch!! you will get more out of your car by turboing it than going n/a. It just depends on what you want. Either way your gonna have to pay to play!! good luck

 

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so does the ls...and the sleeves are stonger

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingfish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were you I would build the LS block for a turbo. Forged crank, rods, pistons. Then you get your cylinder head ported for a turbo application. You will probably need an ecu that can be tuned, AEM ems or something similar. Then turbo the sum bitch!! you will get more out of your car by turboing it than going n/a. It just depends on what you want. Either way your gonna have to pay to play!! good luck


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honda motors already have forged cranks...but yea, it depends on how much power you want...you could resleeve and crop forged pistons and rods in , port and polish the head..and tune with hondata if you want 350+whp, or you could just drop forged pistons and rods into the existing block and boost away and tune with hndata....or you can swap in a k-series

 

Yeah this is something I would love to do. Had a 95 ls . They are fun good looking cars and all the parts are out there. There is no end to the combination of parts you can put into the integra. I still say turbo all the way.

Thanks for the correction projectTeG!!

 

LS allmotor. block girdle and ARP rod bolts + valvetrain + cams + headwork = gs-r killer. just can't beat the sounds allmotor makes.

 

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or that too.....thats what im goin to start building, then a boosted motor....me likes both

 

if ur wanting to boost then boost the ls motor or the h22 because the head on the h22 isn't like a bseries that can handle the revs and will blow a lot more easily going all motor unless totally building the head than a gsr or any bseries head woiuld.

bringing up another point, why not buy a b18c1, whoop some people stock or with an intake and exhaust, save up some money, buy a s/c or turbo + LSD and own all?

i mean eitehr way man, u have several choices. all motor LS = ehhhh, turbo ls = yeah baby, h22 = quicker, b18c1 = pure heaven, b18c1 + turbo = dear god

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if ur wanting to boost then boost the ls motor or the h22 because the head on the h22 isn't like a bseries that can handle the revs and will blow a lot more easily going all motor unless totally building the head than a gsr or any bseries head woiuld.

bringing up another point, why not buy a b18c1, whoop some people stock or with an intake and exhaust, save up some money, buy a s/c or turbo + LSD and own all?

i mean eitehr way man, u have several choices. all motor LS = ehhhh, turbo ls = yeah baby, h22 = quicker, b18c1 = pure heaven, b18c1 + turbo = dear god</TD></TR></TABLE>

ppl have many off their own opinions,,,,like hating on N/a LS motors or even N/a motors in general, and same with turbo, just search around here and you'll find many things to help you make your descision....its not any of our choices to make as you see we all have differing opinons

 

i know thats what i wuz saying we cannot make the choice for him. personally im an all motor kind of guy anyways. the way i look at it though na = bragging rights FI = faster. it just all comes down to the choice u personally make...

 

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because it's quite expensive compared to making an LS produce the same numbers, and heck, while we're at it, it's also more expensive than an H22 swap, which has 30 more hp and 20ft-lbs more torque, and already would have LSD and still be cheaper than GS-R swap.

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actually, the LS and GS-R will produce very similar numbers when turbocharged. the GS-R has better-flowing intake ports and revs higher, but its VTEC cams are too long to be good for boosting; the LS is larger, has lower compression, and shorter cams.

 

the reason i ask is for some more techinical info really, like for instance the ls transmission has longer gears and what not than a gs-r tranny so on so i was curious as to the fact which could be the best bang for the buck/ Reliablility wise.

I love turbo its freakin awsome for what kinda horse u get but on the other hand nothing beats the sound and the feeling of smoking a vehicle with an all motor application. When someone sais they have a turbo u pretty much know its going to be quick. But when u go ahead and say u are all motor it all depends on the Type of interiors u use as well as porting and so on. Plus people give vtec so much credit when actually its not neccasarily the greatest creation ever. For a stock vehicle yah it makes all the difference. but when it comes to building a motor vtec doesnt make it All that much better.

EHHH but any info/ comments are appreciated so keep em rolling!!!!

 

get a K20, it already has more torque than an H22!

 

well, in my opinion, all-motor is for those who need a very reliable daily driver, but don't want such a slow car. if i wasn't worried about price and reliability, i'd go turbo.

 

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because it's quite expensive compared to making an LS produce the same numbers, and heck, while we're at it, it's also more expensive than an H22 swap, which has 30 more hp and 20ft-lbs more torque, and already would have LSD and still be cheaper than GS-R swap.

actually, the LS and GS-R will produce very similar numbers when turbocharged. the GS-R has better-flowing intake ports and revs higher, but its VTEC cams are too long to be good for boosting; the LS is larger, has lower compression, and shorter cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The lsd transmissions cost more they dont all come with lsd most dont. H22 anyway.


The gsr will eat up the ls with the same psi of boost and have more overall power under the curve almost everywhere. The vtec cams are perfect for turbo i dont know if you have been in the f/i section lately, as even type r cams have made more hp the gsr cams on a turbo setup and that was without reducing the overlap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Acutang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reason i ask is for some more techinical info really, like for instance the ls transmission has longer gears and what not than a gs-r tranny so on so i was curious as to the fact which could be the best bang for the buck/ Reliablility wise.

I love turbo its freakin awsome for what kinda horse u get but on the other hand nothing beats the sound and the feeling of smoking a vehicle with an all motor application. When someone sais they have a turbo u pretty much know its going to be quick. But when u go ahead and say u are all motor it all depends on the Type of interiors u use as well as porting and so on. Plus people give vtec so much credit when actually its not neccasarily the greatest creation ever. For a stock vehicle yah it makes all the difference. but when it comes to building a motor vtec doesnt make it All that much better.

EHHH but any info/ comments are appreciated so keep em rolling!!!!
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It makes the car alot more driveable. It makes a smoother broader torque curve. It will make about 50 more hp . Id say vtec gets its credit legitimately. I am talking built vtec to built ls all things being equal. And the vtec engines have more available parts and flow much better. A ported ls head doesnt flow as well as most stock vtec heads.