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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 03:57 AM
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Default Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan.

7:00 AM and noone is awake but me. I guess I'll have to chatter away on HT.

I got my motor apart over a week ago, and to my suprise found this. I think the guy that built the motor used just a little too much liquid gasket. The motor only had about 2000 miles on it, and is being rebuilt because it had low-compression pistons, and I need to change them. I'm glad I found this when I did!






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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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now that....sucks.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (bosco500)

Same thing happens when people put too much copperspray on head gaskets, it clogs the pickup..
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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Thats nasty! Why is there orange RTV on there anyway???
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats nasty! Why is there orange RTV on there anyway??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no idea. The motor "supposedly" was build by a reputable shop in NJ... I doubt it.

On the other hand, I did race the motor at Road Atlanta 2 weeks ago, and amazingly the oil pressure was not low. It stayed around 55 - 70 psi at WOT all weekend.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:23 AM
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hmmm..they used gasket maker...i thought hondas and acuras have rubber gaskets u buy from the dealer to put on????
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr_ducksauce &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm..they used gasket maker...i thought hondas and acuras have rubber gaskets u buy from the dealer to put on????</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was used in conjuction with the gasket.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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i cant believe ppl even use RTV silicon on their honda pans. its rediculous. i havent had a oil pan leak because i pay the little extra to buy the new pan gasket because it works and works well. no need for RTV to make everything stick together.

BTW 55-70PSI for oil pressure, thats low.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant believe ppl even use RTV silicon on their honda pans. its rediculous. i havent had a oil pan leak because i pay the little extra to buy the new pan gasket because it works and works well. no need for RTV to make everything stick together.

BTW 55-70PSI for oil pressure, thats low.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just replaced mine with hondabond all around and it still leaks, go figure. I'll live with oil leaks for a while.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (LSVTEC 91 Civic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just replaced mine with hondabond all around and it still leaks, go figure. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No need for Hondabond or any other sealer on Honda oil pan gaskets.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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WTF!

Good thing you found that when you did!
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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what shop?
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (1 2 NV)

Oil pressure seem s a bit low, my b18 runs 81-85 psi
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Old May 2, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No need for Hondabond or any other sealer on Honda oil pan gaskets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is very re-assuring since I just bought a replacement oilpan and it came with a gasket. I also bought Hondabond because I had someone suggest it to me. I think I will skip on using it now and save it for a rainy (hopefully not leaky) day
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Old May 2, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (trojan9x)

I've never used Hondabond or any sort of gasket maker on oil pan gaskets. Follow the proper torquing sequence so the gasket doesn't bind up and leak, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never used Hondabond or any sort of gasket maker on oil pan gaskets. Follow the proper torquing sequence so the gasket doesn't bind up and leak, you shouldn't have any problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hopefully that sequence will be in my chilton's manual
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Old May 2, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (92TypeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never used Hondabond or any sort of gasket maker on oil pan gaskets. Follow the proper torquing sequence so the gasket doesn't bind up and leak, you shouldn't have any problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

word.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (envision2teg)

I use just a little bit of hondabond where the oil pump and rear main seal housing meet the block. Very little. Thats what works for me.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Nope. Never put hondabond or any type of liquid sealer on pan gaskets. My CTR has 25,000 miles on it since the new pan gasket and NOT ONE leak to be found.

THE #1 REASON HONDA PAN GASKETS LEAK: OVER TORQUE!

Mine are finger tight and 1 1/2 turns. Otherwise you sqeeze the gasket and create oil paths.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (Tbone)

I'd like to know a little more about this, can you explain how Copper S. would get to and clog the oil pickup. I may have used to much copper spray, actually I know I did and my oil pressure is kinda funny once my motor is all warmed up! Thanks for any help, I searched just nothing on what happens to motors when to thick of copperspray used!
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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I just lightly greased my gasket with some oil and bolted it up to tq specs, accidentally snapped a few bolts and I havent had a leak for a year now lol. even after it was rebuilt and taken off and put back on with a new gasket. Go figure.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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There's not a gasket listed for a 99 sh on Hondaautomotiveparts.com so we have to use hondabond, no other choise. A pan is not going to just seal on the bottom of the block no way!
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (shdriver99)

Shdriver99,

The copper spray squishes out the same way rtv will when more then a thin layer is used, it then goes down into the pan via the orfices it squeezed out and your pick up sucks it up , it then gets stuck there..
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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When building my bottom end of my 93 H22A. The service manual recommends a small amount of HondaBond in certain specific areas of the oil pan gasket.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Check this out. Examples of how not to install an oil pan. (rawkus)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rawkus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When building my bottom end of my 93 H22A. The service manual recommends a small amount of HondaBond in certain specific areas of the oil pan gasket.
Dan</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same for b series.
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