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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Default Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions.

Car still runs.. starts up everytime..

I pulled out the spark plug wire and it had water in it so I think water seeped in through the sparkplug holes.

The car sounds likes its underwater and the sputters but it does run and starts up.

I know I shouldnt start it up but I had to troubleshoot the problem to find out what it was before I found out it was hydrolock.

I am also not throwing any codes


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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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take out all the spark plugs, get then replaced, and use a pump and some vacume line, and get that watter outa there
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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Forgot to mention the engine is ticking
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Umm... hydro-lock only happens when you get water into the cylinders. Water didn't leak through the spark plugs or spark plug holes into the cylinder with the spark plugs in place. You have water on top of the plug which is causing poor ignition, which is causing your car to run like crap.

DON'T TAKE OUT THE SPARK PLUGS. Take off the wires, get an air blower and blow out the water from the holes and off the wires and let them dry. Then make sure when you put everything back together it's all tight so that won't happen again.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CycloneBlue_1.6EL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Umm... hydro-lock only happens when you get water into the cylinders. Water didn't leak through the spark plugs or spark plug holes into the cylinder with the spark plugs in place. You have water on top of the plug which is causing poor ignition, which is causing your car to run like crap.

DON'T TAKE OUT THE SPARK PLUGS. Take off the wires, get an air blower and blow out the water from the holes and off the wires and let them dry. Then make sure when you put everything back together it's all tight so that won't happen again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really really hope your right

Would that also make your exhaust sound like its underwater
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions. (OoBryan)

Assuming you sucked it up through the intake, it would be a good idea to change the oil and dry out the spark plugs (I changed mine). This happened to me once and I wasn't as lucky ...sent 2 rods through the oil pan. However, a friend got water in his engine and those two things had his car running good again. Just pray you didn't send a rod traveling.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions. (OoBryan)

I think your right CycloneBlue_1.6EL I took out the plug wires cleaned them and dryed it and it seems to be running alot better.

New plugs, wires and oil tomorrow
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Cool. Did you wash your engine or something?
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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way to come to the rescue! It seems like that move really helped him out if that's the only problem. I'm going to add that to my troubleshoot list just in case my car ever have any running problems. (CHECK IF WATER IS ON TOP OF SPARK PLUGS)
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions. (extra cam needed)

oh gosh... you said ticking... if thats the case you have rod knock and its not gonna be long before you push a piston through your block.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh gosh... you said ticking... if thats the case you have rod knock and its not gonna be long before you push a piston through your block. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't jump to that conclusion...what he may have heard was ticking from a cylinder that wasn't firing because of poor ignition.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions. (CycloneBlue_1.6EL)

Everything is fixed but now I get a high idle at 2000rpm

is there a diy on idle adjustment?
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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You have to rule out a vacuum leak first.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CycloneBlue_1.6EL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have to rule out a vacuum leak first.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did that already
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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Default Re: Very little HYDROLOCK Need suggestions. (OoBryan)

[QUOTE=OoBryan]Everything is fixed but now I get a high idle at 2000rpm

is there a diy on idle adjustment?[/QUOTE]yes, it's called the haynes manual, it shows how to adjust it, thats what i used. plus it will tell you other trouble shooting methods for high idle. Hope you get it working
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Dont have that kind of money to buy one of those.....

dont even have money for gas lol

I need to know how to adjust idle on a b16a2
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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start car and let it warm to oper. temp, disconnect plug from iac valve, adjust screw on tb to desired idle turn off car. Plug in iac valve and disconnect ecu by whatever method you so choose to reset check engine light that will come on from disconnecting iac while running. Power ecu after a min. or so and start car and it should idle like you want, provided there arent any other problems with anything else. If anyone else has a different way please correct me, but thats how i did mine(per haynes book)
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Hmmm.. I went through a huge puddle the other day and then a ways down the road I was at a traffic light. When it turned green I hit the gas and it just stalled.. I pulled off to the side in the downpouring rain (Swearing and cursing the puddle & rain to hell) I let it sit for a few minutes and after about 3 tries it started back up and I let it sit at about 4k RPM for a about 15 seconds then it was fine.

Was that bad? Is there anything I should do or do differently next time?
Was that just the air filter?

Now I am nervous that I have damaged my poor little stock EX engine.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ssbpturbohatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">start car and let it warm to oper. temp, disconnect plug from iac valve, adjust screw on tb to desired idle turn off car. Plug in iac valve and disconnect ecu by whatever method you so choose to reset check engine light that will come on from disconnecting iac while running. Power ecu after a min. or so and start car and it should idle like you want, provided there arent any other problems with anything else. If anyone else has a different way please correct me, but thats how i did mine(per haynes book) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ill do that today.

I can reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery right?

Also why do you have to disconnect the iac valve?

What screw exactly on the throttle body?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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1)yes
2)i cant remember exactly why, but it say to do so in the book
3)if standing on passenger side, looking at tb, top left side of tb there is a screw that is pretty much flush with the tb,next to the upper left tb bolt(kinda between the top left bolt and map sensor)
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGCivicCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm.. I went through a huge puddle the other day and then a ways down the road I was at a traffic light. When it turned green I hit the gas and it just stalled.. I pulled off to the side in the downpouring rain (Swearing and cursing the puddle & rain to hell) I let it sit for a few minutes and after about 3 tries it started back up and I let it sit at about 4k RPM for a about 15 seconds then it was fine.

Was that bad? Is there anything I should do or do differently next time?
Was that just the air filter?

Now I am nervous that I have damaged my poor little stock EX engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you should be ok, i had that happen to me right after i boosted mine, i had no hood on the car, was going to where the hood was and it started raining really bad and same happened to me, pulled into a car wash bay to let it sit for a while cranked it up with occ. rev and covered some important parts to get me where i was going and my car is still running strong 1yr later(minus turbo now, swap soon), but you may wanna check your plugs just to be sure there still good.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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It seems to be running fine, no problems except that damn rattling noise which I have to find. Plugs probably need to be replaced anyway

Thanks bro.. Driving with no hood on, thats different
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:18 AM
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no prob man, only had no hood cause i took it off to get it out of my way while doing swap and turbo install, dont think i'll forget to put it back on right away any more
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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take out a spark plug and turn the motor over to get the water out
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIcivicHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take out a spark plug and turn the motor over to get the water out</TD></TR></TABLE>

read the whole thread
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