-i have an 01' civic LX_5-speed...intake and exhaust, thats all. what should be my next purchase? or what in the engine should i focus on first?

-ignition?
-fuel?
-headers?
-chip?

-this is my first project car and i just got it in august of 04', so i haven't had much time to do research. but i have picked up some things from honda-tech. i've done all the work on all my cars in the past though and i plan to do it to this car as well. any knowledge is appreciated.

 

Header, Cam, Intake manifold, Si Tranny w/ Lightened Flywheel and upgraded clutch... The list can go on.

Stay with the factory ignition, you can upgrade to NGK wires if you want though...

 

honda oem igniton is best for you which includes oem plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, everything either honda oem, ngk, or denso. you should only need to upgrade your fuel flow when you start flowing more air and the intake really isn't what i'm talking about. if you want, go ahead and get a header, it will make your car sound better, but not a huge performance upgrade. after that, look into a camshaft, it will take advantage of the intake, header, and exhaust. then you might wanna adjust your fuel. if you get too crazy a cam, you should change your valvetrain (springs and retainers) too. your other options, are to look into a turbo, figure that out before you buy a header though, or you could get a motor swap. just keep doing research before you do anything else. and no, don't get a chip either.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda oem igniton is best for you which includes oem plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, everything either honda oem, ngk, or denso. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-do i have to buy every part seperate or is there an ignition kit?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should only need to upgrade your fuel flow when you start flowing more air and the intake really isn't what i'm talking about. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-what exactly are you talking about?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want, go ahead and get a header, it will make your car sound better, but not a huge performance upgrade. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-you mean...it won't make much of a difference?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after that, look into a camshaft, it will take advantage of the intake, header, and exhaust. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-could you elaberate on the camshaft and what it does?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you get too crazy a cam, you should change your valvetrain (springs and retainers) too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-what determines if it's crazy or not?

 

all i have to say is wow.

howstuffworks.com

find out how your motor works please

 

hey don't hate just cause you have 11000 posts. do something else with your time other then waste mine.

 

im not hating, and my post count has nothing to do with anything. learn something becasue you obviously have no idea what we're saying.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flamega &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

-do i have to buy every part seperate or is there an ignition kit?

you already have honda ignition

-what exactly are you talking about?

learn

-you mean...it won't make much of a difference?

learn

-could you elaberate on the camshaft and what it does?

howstuffworks

-what determines if it's crazy or not?

research</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

-if your motor still has the honda ignition components, then just replace them as they go bad with more honda, ngk, or denso components. if you already put bosch or other stuff in, then i suggest going back to the 3 brands i listed.

-an intake and also an intake manifold just let your motor get air easier so they are good mods, but your motor will not really use more air until you change the cam.

-a header will make a small difference (like 3-4hp), but like i said above about the intakes, you won't really see big results until you put in a cam to take advantage of the better flowing header.

-the camshaft is what rotates in the head of your engine and it has lobes on it to open and close the intake and exhaust valves in your head. getting a more "aggresive" cam causes your intake and exhaust valves to open further and for a longer time to in turn bring more air in and more air out.

-when i said "too crazy a cam" i was referring to the different stages of cams out there. the different companies manufacture different levels of aggresiveness, and you should be OK with a stage 1 cam on your stock valvetrain as long as you stay within the limits of the stock redline.

hope this helps, and like i said before, do like you're doing and research before you do anything and don't just start buying stuff and throwing it at your car. find out what works best together, what you need to get the full potential out of your mods, etc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> -if your motor still has the honda ignition components, then just replace them as they go bad with more honda, ngk, or denso components. if you already put bosch or other stuff in, then i suggest going back to the 3 brands i listed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-i heard, and tell me if i'm wrong, denso is more expensive then it's worth. your paying for ther name. if thats true then i'm going to go with ngk.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-an intake and also an intake manifold just let your motor get air easier so they are good mods, but your motor will not really use more air until you change the cam.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-that right there is the best thing i've learned so far. thank you. so it's the cam that makes all the difference. huha.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> -the camshaft is what rotates in the head of your engine and it has lobes on it to open and close the intake and exhaust valves in your head. getting a more "aggresive" cam causes your intake and exhaust valves to open further and for a longer time to in turn bring more air in and more air out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-ya i did do some research like the other guy suggested and i learned how the cams and springs and valves work a little bit. i just have to read it again to get a better understanding.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> -when i said "too crazy a cam" i was referring to the different stages of cams out there. the different companies manufacture different levels of aggresiveness, and you should be OK with a stage 1 cam on your stock valvetrain as long as you stay within the limits of the stock redline.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-ok then so...your vavletrain is what determines what stage cam you can get? i guess i have to do research on what a valvetrain is then.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DelSolDon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> find out what works best together, what you need to get the full potential out of your mods, etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>

-by this you must mean the insides of the motor mostly, no? not the intake and headers or exhaust right? thats not as critical as the cams and valves and timing, and all those moving parts. but i could be wrong.

-thanks alot. i'm going to do more research. i'll get back to this forum.

 

get an SMSP header they cost a shitload but you'll get huge gains out of them.
and of course a K&N filter for your intake

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flamega &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
-i have an 01' civic LX_5-speed...intake and exhaust, thats all. what should be my next purchase? or what in the engine should i focus on first?

-ignition?
-fuel?
-headers?
-chip? </TD></TR></TABLE>

and DONT get a performance chip off ebay they dont do **** except make you run really really rich

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matt5745767 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and of course a K&N filter for your intake </TD></TR></TABLE>

i already have a filter for my intake obviously...but will the K&N filter make a difference? if not that much of a difference, then i'll stick with mine.

-but why do you say deffinately K&N?

-and what does SMSP stand for so i can look it up?

 

What brand intake and exhaust do you have? K&N's are the best because they flow the most air, filter the best, can be cleaned and reused and are guaranteed for life I believe. Also, as far as an SMSP header goes you aren't at the point where you'd really benefit from one. I mean they are top notch for sure but they go for around $1000 and most people get something like that once their engine is all built up ya know?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheHooded_Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, as far as an SMSP header goes you aren't at the point where you'd really benefit from one. I mean they are top notch for sure but they go for around $1000 and most people get something like that once their engine is all built up ya know? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah unless you're really serious its probably not for you

 

alright. i'm deffinately not spending $1000 on a header. i'm not hooking my car up to that extreme. it has to be my daily driver. but i still want to make sure it's done right.

i want more kick then a stock civic, but i don't think it will reach the extreme that i have to be careful not to do this or that, for risk of blowing my motor, or shooting a piston through my hood. maybe turbo, maybe not. i want a turbo, but i don't want my only car to be at risk in any way. so i'm going to stick to the basics for right now.

-what makes one header better then the other? $1000 much better?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flamega &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what makes one header better then the other? $1000 much better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well SMSP headers have tons of research and development put into them, they are very high quality, work the best, etc etc and you're paying for that. You should first know that your options are very limited compared to the other generation civics. Their aren't many aftermarket parts for '01 and up so I say maybe get a decent header and be done with it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheHooded_Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a decent header and be done with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-any header that you recommend? like what brand?

dc sport is supposed to be good. another thing i want to keep in mind is...i want it to be chrome polished. my engine is all chrome and blue, or at least it's gonna be.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flamega &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

-any header that you recommend? like what brand?

dc sport is supposed to be good. another thing i want to keep in mind is...i want it to be chrome polished. my engine is all chrome and blue, or at least it's gonna be.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Oh christ....chrome and blue engine bay. PLease don't tell me you have one of those dress up kits from pepboys or jegs. He already has it in his username...Flame


-not trying to be a jerk. I understand you are trying to learn. But you need to do some major research. goodluck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R_star &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh christ....chrome and blue engine bay. PLease don't tell me you have one of those dress up kits from pepboys or jegs. He already has it in his username...Flame</TD></TR></TABLE>

-why what is wrong with blue?

the only thing that i have thats blue so far is the flange that connects the intake to the motor, and the suction hose. thats why i want to go with blue.

and no i don't have a dress up kit.

and for your info my user name is my nick name...it's Portuguese...***. it's pronounced fla-mE-ga, with an accent though.

thanks for all your usefull help buddy.

 

please shutup stupidass...


If you are looking for speed please sell your car and get something else. Your single slammer is not going to do anything in that 4-door. You need more then a intake and full exhaust. For that car to have any "pep" to it what so ever you need to swap motors of get a turbo. Even then with a turbo you are only going to be making low 200whp. Goodluck newb

 

you really have no idea what your talking about...

1st of all it's a 2 door, dick.

and thats funny because my car with a turbo will easily have over 200HP. considering with just the intake, exhaust and cam, it pushes about 170HP. and your gonna tell me that with a turbo, it will only add 30HP.

i may be new to this site, but you obviously haven't learned anything in the time you've been here. maybe that having an attitude like that, you've just been classified as a<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R_star &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stupidass</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

and who's the stupidass. your takin hits on someone for not knowing anything, thats only been on this site for a month.

i think you should eaze up real quick, and stop thinkin your tough behind your comp.

i'm asking for advide not added lib, little boy.(cough...cough...19) hahaha

 

anyway...anybody else out there.

say i get the intake, exhaust, and header. what kind of cam should i look into.

or maybe there is a site that someone has that i can go to and learn for myself, so i don't upset anyone else that has a sore *****.

any other help will be appreciated.

 

this site had all the info that you can look at for yourself already here