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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Just wanted to get some thoughts on this:
I swapped out some gaskets today on my vtec solenoid. The screen in part # 10/12 had metal shavings in it.
Anyone have any idea where this could be coming from?

I changed the oil and there wasn't any metal in it and I also stuck a small magnet into the oil pan and moved it around -- it came back without any shavings. Since this filter meets w/ the head, I'm wondering if I could potentially be destroying something up there. The bottom end of the motor had some machine work done to it and I was wondering if it was a possibility that the shop did a shitty job cleaning it out.
Anyone have any thoughts on where this might be coming from?

Compression tested at 225 across the board.

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ihaveamustang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wanted to get some thoughts on this:
I swapped out some gaskets today on my vtec solenoid. The screen in part # 10/12 had metal shavings in it.
Anyone have any idea where this could be coming from?

I changed the oil and there wasn't any metal in it and I also stuck a small magnet into the oil pan and moved it around -- it came back without any shavings. Since this filter meets w/ the head, I'm wondering if I could potentially be destroying something up there. The bottom end of the motor had some machine work done to it and I was wondering if it was a possibility that the shop did a shitty job cleaning it out.
Anyone have any thoughts on where this might be coming from?

Compression tested at 225 across the board.

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Certainly not a good thing, but I don't think you need me to tell you that. Honestly, I would be very concerned and most likely would be pulling th pan, all the main caps and all the rod caps to check for signs of damage or debris in the oil. I would also inspect the oil pickup and probably the oil pump as well. Crap in the oil just does LOAD of damage to things.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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cut your oil filter open
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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If the head was surfaced, some times chips get it the vtec passage and the only to clear it is pull the plugs, one on the side and one at the rear, to get them out. That is the reason for the screen filter as I have seen them in new engines as well. Checking the screen should be done often.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the head was surfaced, some times chips get it the vtec passage and the only to clear it is pull the plugs, one on the side and one at the rear, to get them out. That is the reason for the screen filter as I have seen them in new engines as well. Checking the screen should be done often.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats fine an all, but its still debris in the oil. Anyway you look at it, it could have gotten into the rest of the system, destroyed bearings, maybe gougged the cam bearings, cams, oil pump, etc.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Yes, It could , I was trying to explain where it comes from. If it was from the bottom end "chips" would never grt through the oil filter.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, It could , I was trying to explain where it comes from. If it was from the bottom end "chips" would never grt through the oil filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless the filter sucks or had a tear in the element. Doubt it though. I see what you're saying.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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is your head tapped for lsvtec?
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it was from the bottom end "chips" would never get through the oil filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depending on what oil filter you have crap from the bottom can get all over. Many oil filters have a bypass so that if the element gets clogged it will let the oil go around the element. The H23 that came with my prelude chassis had spun bearing material all over it. It had filled the oil pump, the galleys it was in the cam journals, everywhere. For reference it was a Fram filter.

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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depending on what oil filter you have crap from the bottom can get all over. Many oil filters have a bypass so that if the element gets clogged it will let the oil go around the element. The H23 that came with my prelude chassis had spun bearing material all over it. It had filled the oil pump, the galleys it was in the cam journals, everywhere. For reference it was a Fram filter.

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so your saying when the bypass valve opens all the stuff traped in the filter gets out of the filter? LOL.....then the filter would be useless....and another thing....once there is a certain amount of pressure reached all oil filters bypass internally....the filtering element simply cant take the pressure at 8k+....this is why there is a bypass valve....not just for if its clogged =P
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