i have a 2001 base prelude auto..

i want to swap the tranny into manual...


will the SH tranny directly bolt in and fit into a base prelude? will this work for my project..
and how much will a tranny run me for? will the price differ from the SH and BAse tranny?

disadvantages/advantages?

any suggestions? advice?

thanks, any info will be greatly appreciated

 

it will not work. the SH tranny uses ATTS. the base block does not have the mounting holes for the atts unit.

search. this was covered in great detail. with half a brain you could look at the pics and figure it out.

BTW: an SH tranny with atts unit and computer will run you about 900+, a base tranny will be 500+

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1081801

 

You can use a base tranny on an SH block with some fabrication, but, for a few reasons, you CANNOT use an SH tranny on a base block.

 

i wouldn't want that atts crap anyway.

 

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you have never driven an SH then. there is a very noticable difference. you call it crap but it works. it works well enough that the all beloved skyline has the same style system just in AWD fashion. but everyone knows they handle like **** and are worthless too.

 

how much would the SH tranny without the ATTS unit run for?

you said it'd be 900+ with the atts unit and computer


will an SH tranny without the ATTS unit bolt right up into an SH motor

 

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you said it'd be 900+ with the atts unit and computer


will an SH tranny without the ATTS unit bolt right up into an SH motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

you wont be able to put an intermediate shaft into the sh tranny, so it wont work. if you use the sh tranny you have to use the atts unit. reguardless if its hooked up or not. sorry man, but thats the way it goes.

 

i'd take a quaife over some overly complicated Honda BS anyday. a torque biasing diff that only works when the car is moving and probably cost WAY more than just using something like a quaife and is weaker and expensive to repair, ingenious

 

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why would you need it to work when the car isnt moving?

please just stop talking. you are running in circles of bullshit around yourself

 

while i'd prefer a quaife (and actually have one), ATTS does what it's supposed to do very well. Albeit, it's a little too heavy, and has some issue with high HP, and doesn't help with straight line traction, it's a well designed unit.

keep in mind that the SH's ATTS system was an experiment by honda, keeping in line with the prelude's identity as the "test car for new ideas" so if ATTS isn't perfect, it's because it was the first iteration of a bold idea.

Also, as far as torque biasing goes, the quaife has its limitations on just how much torque can be transferred to a wheel.

 

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Dude, go talk out your *** somewhere else. ATTS is not an LSD, it's not meant to try to behave like an LSD, so it's not even comparable to an LSD.

 

no **** its not an LSD thats my whole damn point.
quaife-does both for less and w/ less complication.

oh and quaife isnt a LSD either.

ATTS sucks, so why try to convert over to it.

 

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why would you need it to work when the car isnt moving?

please just stop talking. you are running in circles of bullshit around yourself</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm so maybe 2 wheels spin instead of peg legging on a launch??? just maybe that makes sense.

make sure to miss the point and reply w/ some bs about its not supposed to be a LSD.

 

i just did this type of tranny mounting. i put my jdm lsd h22 tranny onto my 01 sh block. the bracket wasnt that hard to figure you and fabricate. i didnt take pics cause i didnt really care, but what we did was bolt the tranny to the block, then put the intermediate shaft in and measured the gap between the end of the shaft wher eit bolts to the block and the actual block. none of the holes line up. the gap is 1/4 inch. then we cut the last mouting hole of the intermediate shaft off, and measured the distance from the start of the mounting holes of the IM shaft to the 2 holes in the block. it ended being a 4x4 inch plate that we needed. we had a piece of 1/4 steel laying around the shop (who knows why) and used a plasma cutter and a cutting wheel to cut the plate. we welded the plate to the IM shaft and on the inside of the 2 moutning hols of the IM shaft. put the IM shaft back on the tranny and measured where the other 2 block holes lined up with the plate and marked them and drilled the holes. put two bolts in and we were done. had a lot of fun playing with the plasma cutter too.... hehehe. the welds on the shaft and plate are really strong, and are never coming off. put the axles in and bam, car runs great and i still have lsd. i have a spare 01 sh h22 tranny with all the atts stuff for sale too. check my thread in the lude FS post.

 

Don't even try it. The SH is too different to be worth the trouble. Not only that the parts will cost a bunch more. Easier to swap the entire drivetrain and suspension if you MUST go this way. The engine blocks are a bit different along with the ECU's.

Now for the better choices 1. rebuild the SS and drive it. 2. go for a 5 speed swap. There are a number of threads that also include parts lists. This option will cause you some irritation if you sell or trade in the car-the VIN will not be correct and the value of the car will be different too.

Just my 2 cents