This is really annoying me right now. I plan to get a teg soon. 94 GSR if that matters. I really dont know what mods to do first. For suspension i was originally gonna do KONI yellows and Eibach prokit. All that would probably come out to about 700 lets say. But i would also need (a?) camber kit.

So about 850 maybe?

So if im spending that much, why not just get some omni-powers? Maybe the full suspension kit at robearracing.com for 880?

http://www.robearracing.com/pd_omni.cfm

Any other suggestions? Btw this is for my first car, and my dad has agreed to pay for a few mods. I dont want to go overboard, and have my first "few" mods coming out to a "few"k.

If you guys could also help me on a few other choices. I want to get I/H/E also, i plan to get an RSR Exmag, AEM CAI, and headers. Any suggestion on a brand for the headers? Do i really need them, i mean will i feel that much more power? I really dont feel like spending 400+ on something pointless.

Also, any suggestions on what i should do first, I/H/E or suspension? Or maybe appearance since im only 16 and shouldnt kill myself?

Anyways, hope you guys can give me some input. Thanks.

 

IMO save your money, do a few things cosmetic, but put that money into a college fund. Take advantage of that, as when you have your colled edu. you will have enough money from your job to do all the **** you want...keep that in mind..I wish someone told me that long ago

 

how about taking a driving course once you have the car so you can learn what it does stock. from there you can start to figure out where you want more gains.
Adding mods gradually will also let you experience what gain you get from each one and will help you to determine your likes and dislikes.

What do you want from the car? What are you going to do with the car?

Doing your research is very important in deciding what you want to do to you car.
Don't go for something because some dude says it rocks or is so cool. Be smart about it, get the facts and learn about the product and what it will do for your car.

For a suspension set up I personally prefer something that is adjustable, so that when I am just driving around it doesnt have to be as stiff as I would want it when I am tracking or doing autox. I like to have that option.

Good luck with the mods. And don't let anyone hold your age against you. If you do your research and know what your talking about, ppl respect that!

Cheers!

 

Nuespeed Race Springs = $150 shipped
KYB AGX Adjustable Shocks/Struts = $320 shipped
Skunk2 Front Camber Kit = $150

I hear you can make ur own or adjust for the rear... ur looking around $620 all together

 

Listen to Laura!

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When you lower the car you will end up with too much negative camber - and eat tyres. You will need a camber kit for the front. For the rear you can shim out the top susp mount to the chassis with washers. This will obviously widen the track of the car slightly, but not too much to matter. Be careful that the bolts thread in enough still, better again replace them with longer ones of equal or higher tensile strength.

Good luck!

 

Thanks for the input guys. Im leaning torwads omnis though for suspension. What im looking for in the car..hmmm..probably something fun to drive. I guess you could say "fast", all i really want right now is I/H/E and suspension.

I guess the question now is, which to do first? I/H/E or suspension? I also want wheels, but all together that would come out to a lot of money. We were originally going to get an 94-95 accord, and swap in an H22 and do little mods. The limit was 10k.

We are getting the teg for 3k maybe. So thats a big difference from 10k. I dont really wanna spend that much, id much rather spend my own money than my dads. I dont wanna be one of those spoiled stuck-up bitches.

I put together a list of future mods and things i would want to do and it came out to about 6500, including 3k for the teg. And not including installion and other things like that. So its not that much money, well it is, but not compared to 10k.

I just dunno what im gonna do, any suggestions would be helpful. The basic problem is me not wanting my dad to pay for everything. From that problem, comes the problem that if I dont want my dad to pay for everything, then what mod(s) can i do for now/first?

 

Your def. on the right track. I say:

1. Suspension
2. Tires/Wheels (type of tires play a major role in performance)
3. Engine mods
4. Cosmetics (be subtle about this one)
5. College Fund

 

i say invest that moneyin suspension as well as in a track day. or driving school. yes, a driving school, not like one of those to get your license, but on at a track that teaches you to learn the extremes of your car. you are 16, im a bit older than u so im suggesting whats safe. A GS-R is already quick enough for your age. And since it is your first car, please drive carefully, and not like an a**hole

 

Ok thanks. Yea ill probably do suspension/wheels/tires first. Hmm..Christmas/my own money seems like a good time for some engine mods/cosmetic.

Anyways, I guess we will see how long it takes for me to save up.

Any other input would be nice.

Btw, the teg im getting is BG-33P, so what color wheels do you guys think would look good?

Im thinking silver? Maybe 5zigen FNOR1-Cs?



Or maybe cheaper, Team dynamics?

 

You will not need a camber kit with Eibach springs. I think it's pretty safe to say you don't need a camber kit with most setups, unless you have some CRAZY CRAZY super slammed ride height. Don't bother with one, unless you really want to be able to dial in your camber to a certain setting (like exactly -2 deg. on both sides, or exactly -1.5 or whatever). Negative camber is good to a point, and with a properly aligned car, you will not have any tire problems.

oh and let me be the first to say that some bronze 16" wheels on a BG-33P teg looks MONEY!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will not need a camber kit with Eibach springs. I think it's pretty safe to say you don't need a camber kit with most setups, unless you have some CRAZY CRAZY super slammed ride height. Don't bother with one, unless you really want to be able to dial in your camber to a certain setting (like exactly -2 deg. on both sides, or exactly -1.5 or whatever). Negative camber is good to a point, and with a properly aligned car, you will not have any tire problems.

oh and let me be the first to say that some bronze 16" wheels on a BG-33P teg looks MONEY! </TD></TR></TABLE>

So your saying that all i really need is the normal Omni-power coilovers? That would save some money. Thanks.

Also, yea bronze would look good, but im thinking of getting a miracle x bar from memoryfab, and it only comes in silver. I think that silver wheels with silver miracle X bar would look good. Still have time to decide though.

Anoter quick q, what are 94 tegs (GSR to be exact), 4x100?

 

just let you know ..its SIFF..good for hard-core turn
u need camber kit? YES any drop will need camber kit to correct 100% l l &lt;-tires,looking

 

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where?? what is the max drop with KYB AGX? like where it still have spring travel level

 

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just let you know ..its SIFF..good for hard-core turn
u need camber kit? YES any drop will need camber kit to correct 100% l l &lt;-tires,looking
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So i do need camber kit?

Heh, someone help!

 

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u need camber kit? YES any drop will need camber kit to correct 100% l l &lt;-tires,looking</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well if you want your tires perfectly straight up, then yes you would need a camber kit. But if you want good handling, you DON'T want your tires to be at straight up - camber.

I just got my car aligned today, left front has -2.5 deg. camber and left right has -2.9 deg. Yes my car is dumped and no I do not have any camber kits. But guess what, my tires aren't "eaten". I just have to have them flipped around on the wheels after about 15K miles, so that I can get another 15K-20K miles out of them.

Now if you don't mind spending the money on a camber kit, then I say get a good quality one and dial in the front to around -2 and the rear to around -1.5. With a good alignment your tires will be perfectly fine with those settings.

 

I have to say, I just installed my eibach pro-kit, and my koni yellows on my 98 4-door ls, that I'm beyond impressed with the quailty of my ride now... It's insane. I only dropped it about 2" tops, and the camber looks fine. I'm gonna get it aligned this weekend, and I'll be doing just fine. I'd listen to Patrick.. dude's got the goods.-ekzrated Oh, and as for purchase? I spent $730.00 shipped, plus a six-pack of cold ones and pizza (which I enjoyed as well) to have friends help out with the install

 

I agree with Patrick94GSR. Even though you can be slammed, it doesn't necessarily mean you need a camber kit. An alignment is a must though. And a good practice is to rotate your tires a lot and to flip it after 15-20k miles.

As for choice on suspension, omnipowers are a great choice. I currently am rollin' on the Omnipower Sports (12k/10k) and it is VERY stiff. Even though ride quality is compromised, it's still bearable and cornering is unbelievable.

As for where you should spend your money. Since it's your dad's i would suggest just getting suspension and wheels done. Have him spend the rest on a college education. In the mean time, get a part time job, and use that money on parts. Don't start "lego building" either, read a lot of forums and articles. (team-integra.net is a great resource) Then buy parts that work for your goal. It wouldn't make sense to buy a dc sport header if you plan on going turbo... see where i'm getting at?

Anyways, good luck with the integra. It's a great car and will be a lot of fun for years to come.

 

Seriously, if this is your first car, save your money on the performance mods. Get a nice drop and some 16's.

Spending over a grand on I/H/E on a stock gs-r engine isn't worth the money, imo. The gs-r is a fun car as it is, especially with a good 1.5"-1.75" drop. Wait until you get out of school and get a job before you start worrying about performance. You could spend 1.5k on your engine and still have a slow car in the scope of things. Wait until you can afford a 350z/WRX/s2000 before you bother with performance. Thats when the fun starts and the performance gains are worth the money. (Now of course if your seriously into tuning B series engines and know what your doing, you can get great numbers, have a seriously fast car, and save a shitload of $$ on labor.) -however, it doesnt seem like thats the case with you.

btw, your going to need a camber kit . This is your first car and a daily driver. If this was your weekend track car thats a whole other story.

Now if you dad is just dying to spend money on you, i dont know, get an intake and a nice HDTV for your room. Whatever you do, PLEASE, don't get an aftermarket muffler. There is nothing more annoying than watching a car drive by at 35mph and sounding as if it should be going at least 120. If you must, get a type-r full exhaust.

as for the drop, I have Neuspeed sports on KYB adjustables and a Skunk2 camber it. -I love it.

have fun.

 

Thanks for the input. Yea if i was gonna get a exhaust..it would be full catback, probably an RSR Exmag, so i dont think it would be that loud, not a fart-can or anything. Yea, im gonna do suspension first then start from there. I have enough of my own money right now to buy an intake and an RSR though, so we will see.

Anyways, thanks again for the input.

 

I would lean toward suspension first. My reasoning you ask, well, as you are proabably aware, that is truely the strength of the gsr. Not flat out speed and acceleration, but handling. So, why dump money into a cars weakness, when you have not looked into the strengths first. Everyone has their own priorities though, but this is just my opinion. Good luck!

 

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Once again, he will NOT need a camber kit. What does the car being a daily driver vs. a weekend track car have to do with anything? My car is a daily driver going over 3000 miles per month, no camber kit here.

 

because if its his first car and a daily driver, the last thing he is going to want to worry about is abnormal tire wear.

the daily driver vs. track car; i was referring to the handling performance gain of offset camber. sure, you can get better handling but nothing he's gonna notice on a curved on-ramp. -and I cant see how that is worth killing your tires. However if you track your car, your probably going through tires pretty quick anyway and the extra handling is worth it.

I'm just trying to steer him away from problems that I have encountered. If I could do it over again, I would have gotten a camber kit from the start. He's getting it paid for anyway, so why not do it right?