H.I.D HELP!!!!!!!
i just put some bmw HID lights on my 96 teg. the problem is that my driver side light the beem seems like its facing the sidewalk?? the passenger one is too just not as bad. has anyone had this problem??? how can i fix it.??!! please help!!!!!
blah blah.. i have 350z hidz in my jdm headlight projectors & they are bright as hell! im sure hid projectors might be brighter.. but just having them in stock projectors isn't going to make them point any weird way!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc9turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM housings. whats the diff between the aftermarket projectors?? and where can i get a set??</TD></TR></TABLE>
you don't want aftermarket projectors, you want OEM HID projectors.
if you just go around sticking HID bulbs into the stock projectors it's going to suck d#ck. Hell I used to have properly rebased HID bulbs which were aligned to 9006 bulbs, and it still sucked pretty bad compared to OEM HID projectors. How are your bulbs being held in the housing? Unless the bulb was properly rebased using a lathe, I guarantee that the bulb is nowhere near being in proper alignment.
HID projectors are the only way to go with regards to having HID on an Integra. Everything else is ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlxSiR7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blah blah.. i have 350z hidz in my jdm headlight projectors & they are bright as hell! im sure hid projectors might be brighter.. but just having them in stock projectors isn't going to make them point any weird way!</TD></TR></TABLE>
350Z's use a D2R bulb, which is meant for reflector headlights (yes most of the light from 350Z headlights comes from its reflector, not from that tiny little projector lens). I guarantee your light would be better with a D2S bulb meant for a projector, but as I said above, if it's not properly rebased, it won't be properly aligned, which most likely will mean your cutoff will be ***, and the light will either be on the ground or blinding everyone in front of you.
you don't want aftermarket projectors, you want OEM HID projectors.
if you just go around sticking HID bulbs into the stock projectors it's going to suck d#ck. Hell I used to have properly rebased HID bulbs which were aligned to 9006 bulbs, and it still sucked pretty bad compared to OEM HID projectors. How are your bulbs being held in the housing? Unless the bulb was properly rebased using a lathe, I guarantee that the bulb is nowhere near being in proper alignment.
HID projectors are the only way to go with regards to having HID on an Integra. Everything else is ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlxSiR7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blah blah.. i have 350z hidz in my jdm headlight projectors & they are bright as hell! im sure hid projectors might be brighter.. but just having them in stock projectors isn't going to make them point any weird way!</TD></TR></TABLE>
350Z's use a D2R bulb, which is meant for reflector headlights (yes most of the light from 350Z headlights comes from its reflector, not from that tiny little projector lens). I guarantee your light would be better with a D2S bulb meant for a projector, but as I said above, if it's not properly rebased, it won't be properly aligned, which most likely will mean your cutoff will be ***, and the light will either be on the ground or blinding everyone in front of you.
You forgot to mention that it's illegal and the glare is prob blinding the **** out of all the other drivers.. you need to get hid projectors because hid headlights are engineered like the optics of a camera, everything need to be in focus with cut off shields, when you pull up to a garage door or a wall the light should be bright as **** un until about 3 ft high, then it should have a sharp cut off line, and it should be fairly dark about the 3ft line.. Check out some HID forums, and do it the right way.. BTW, Integra headlights are really easy to retrofit some audi projectors into, check out skafia.net he had a write up on an integra mod. goodluck 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc9turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i show u a pic of what my lights are doing will u be able to help me out more??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't mean this sarcastically, but have you actually read the replies by Patrick and Honduh?
I don't mean this sarcastically, but have you actually read the replies by Patrick and Honduh?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc9turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just put some bmw HID lights on my 96 teg. the problem is that my driver side light the beem seems like its facing the sidewalk?? the passenger one is too just not as bad. has anyone had this problem??? how can i fix it.??!! please help!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the same issue with my teg. The headlights aren't the easiest to work with. If the lights aren't broken, you can move them back to facing forward. There should be a screw driver hole where you can align them up and down and left and right. If your's is broken like mine, You can throw some washers in and straighten it that way, but its alot of work! If you dont want to buy knew lights, do the washer thing. Good luck
I have the same issue with my teg. The headlights aren't the easiest to work with. If the lights aren't broken, you can move them back to facing forward. There should be a screw driver hole where you can align them up and down and left and right. If your's is broken like mine, You can throw some washers in and straighten it that way, but its alot of work! If you dont want to buy knew lights, do the washer thing. Good luck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc9turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OEM housings. whats the diff between the aftermarket projectors?? and where can i get a set??</TD></TR></TABLE>
You dont need aftermarket projectors. The factory ones are fine unless they're stripped like I said before. If they're stripped, you may want to look for some new ones if it bothers you that much.
You dont need aftermarket projectors. The factory ones are fine unless they're stripped like I said before. If they're stripped, you may want to look for some new ones if it bothers you that much.
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They're fine if you want bright as hell light out to about 20-ft in front of the car and then **** poor lighting beyond that, and junk@$$ beam spread.
Otherwise they suck. OEM HID projectors (not factory, not aftermarket headlights) are required.
They're fine if you want bright as hell light out to about 20-ft in front of the car and then **** poor lighting beyond that, and junk@$$ beam spread.
Otherwise they suck. OEM HID projectors (not factory, not aftermarket headlights) are required.
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They're fine if you want bright as hell light out to about 20-ft in front of the car and then **** poor lighting beyond that, and junk@$$ beam spread.
Otherwise they suck. OEM HID projectors (not factory, not aftermarket headlights) are required.</TD></TR></TABLE>
god ******* n00bs.
They're fine if you want bright as hell light out to about 20-ft in front of the car and then **** poor lighting beyond that, and junk@$$ beam spread.
Otherwise they suck. OEM HID projectors (not factory, not aftermarket headlights) are required.</TD></TR></TABLE>
god ******* n00bs.
ok u got me convinced. i checked out my igniter and the bmw lights are D2S. so i know i need the projector from a bmw. now my question is where can i get them and get them cheap. also what tools do i need.
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you don't necessarily need a BMW projector. Nearly all HID projectors accept D2S bulbs (exception is the rare few that take D1S like C6 Corvette and B6 04-up Audi A4's). There are projector comparisons all over hidplanet.com, look through the threads on the forum there to find something you think you might like. S2000 is the best for a retrofit, but they're expensive and somewhat hard to find.
hidplanet.com sells Valeo and Bosch projectors, but both are fairly small and may be hard to get it to work right in an Integra headlight. By far the best fitting and easiest projector to retrofit is the Hella bi-xenon projector, but these are not the best in terms of overall light output on low beam function (high beam function in conjunction with stock halogen high beams is killer though!).
I'm not positive but I think X5 projectors might also be a good fit. A6 projectors will work, but they need spacers to bring the projector forward (seen in the how-to on skafia.com). The Hella bi-xenons don't need any spacers.
hidplanet.com sells Valeo and Bosch projectors, but both are fairly small and may be hard to get it to work right in an Integra headlight. By far the best fitting and easiest projector to retrofit is the Hella bi-xenon projector, but these are not the best in terms of overall light output on low beam function (high beam function in conjunction with stock halogen high beams is killer though!).
I'm not positive but I think X5 projectors might also be a good fit. A6 projectors will work, but they need spacers to bring the projector forward (seen in the how-to on skafia.com). The Hella bi-xenons don't need any spacers.
I dont understand why he would need new projectors. I have an 8000k hid kit in my 94 teg and the lighting is perfect once I re-aimed them. I've had no problems with my stock projectors. Someone inform me.
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different type of light. The oem lighting system is halo multigas. since it put's out a lot less light, there is no need for high end optics, not to mention the light is closer to the lense, so the reversal point is "out of focus" for the new high output bulbs. The light may be great, but I'd be willing to bet the cutoff point is WAY wrong, and the light is either cast too far or too close causing you to be losing more light, defeating the purpose of upgrading.
A decent cutoff, and focus

as far as them not having good cutoff, if you can stand in front of your car and be blinded by hid, then they are not aimed properly. If your lights are bouncing off street signs at night then they are too high. didn't you ever have an suv pull right up on your *** at a stop light and your rear view was below their cutoff point and you were getting blinded? That's what happens to hids when they arn't aimed properly.. trust me, lighting is like putting a lense on a camera, unless the lense is designed for the camera and mounted straight, the pictures will be blurry and under exposed. They design those projectors for the bulbs that are supposed to go in it. your mixing and matching.
different type of light. The oem lighting system is halo multigas. since it put's out a lot less light, there is no need for high end optics, not to mention the light is closer to the lense, so the reversal point is "out of focus" for the new high output bulbs. The light may be great, but I'd be willing to bet the cutoff point is WAY wrong, and the light is either cast too far or too close causing you to be losing more light, defeating the purpose of upgrading.
A decent cutoff, and focus

as far as them not having good cutoff, if you can stand in front of your car and be blinded by hid, then they are not aimed properly. If your lights are bouncing off street signs at night then they are too high. didn't you ever have an suv pull right up on your *** at a stop light and your rear view was below their cutoff point and you were getting blinded? That's what happens to hids when they arn't aimed properly.. trust me, lighting is like putting a lense on a camera, unless the lense is designed for the camera and mounted straight, the pictures will be blurry and under exposed. They design those projectors for the bulbs that are supposed to go in it. your mixing and matching.
I have an HID kit in my car w/ the stock projectors and they actually shine alright. It's kinda widespread and even but still nothing compared to the beam pattern of the OEM HIDs in BMWs, etc. Of course if I could do it all over again, I would've got some OEM projectors from some luxury car. Nothing beats them.
Patrick, I have a question about your car. Do the e55 projectors fit in w/ very little modification.....like adding extra spacers and such?
Patrick, I have a question about your car. Do the e55 projectors fit in w/ very little modification.....like adding extra spacers and such?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95gsrteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Patrick, I have a question about your car. Do the e55 projectors fit in w/ very little modification.....like adding extra spacers and such?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cut off stock projector, enlarge hole, mark and drill holes for screws, and that's about it. No spacers were used on mine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont understand why he would need new projectors. I have an 8000k hid kit in my 94 teg and the lighting is perfect once I re-aimed them. I've had no problems with my stock projectors. Someone inform me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shoot my old HID kit would kill your setup no doubt. The light output from an 8000K HID bulbs is seriously like barely more than a halogen 9005 bulb. So it's like you're running some purple PIAA bulbs or something. My current setup next to yours, there would be no comparison.
I mean just look at this comparison, my car with a relatively high quality HID kit, vs. an S2000 stock:


And now both, the light on the fence from the S2000 absolutely SLAUGHTERS the light from my car:
Cut off stock projector, enlarge hole, mark and drill holes for screws, and that's about it. No spacers were used on mine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont understand why he would need new projectors. I have an 8000k hid kit in my 94 teg and the lighting is perfect once I re-aimed them. I've had no problems with my stock projectors. Someone inform me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shoot my old HID kit would kill your setup no doubt. The light output from an 8000K HID bulbs is seriously like barely more than a halogen 9005 bulb. So it's like you're running some purple PIAA bulbs or something. My current setup next to yours, there would be no comparison.
I mean just look at this comparison, my car with a relatively high quality HID kit, vs. an S2000 stock:
And now both, the light on the fence from the S2000 absolutely SLAUGHTERS the light from my car:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shoot my old HID kit would kill your setup no doubt. The light output from an 8000K HID bulbs is seriously like barely more than a halogen 9005 bulb. So it's like you're running some purple PIAA bulbs or something. My current setup next to yours, there would be no comparison.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I highly doubt that! Its a brand name kit and shines bright purple. I used to have the wimpy purple PIAAs, but they suck! I dont have a pic, but did a comparison with my hids and the old PIAAs. I was an insane difference. My lights don't shine too high and they dont bounce off of street lights, but I can see a million times farther at night. Good luck with your wimpy 6000K set-up!
I highly doubt that! Its a brand name kit and shines bright purple. I used to have the wimpy purple PIAAs, but they suck! I dont have a pic, but did a comparison with my hids and the old PIAAs. I was an insane difference. My lights don't shine too high and they dont bounce off of street lights, but I can see a million times farther at night. Good luck with your wimpy 6000K set-up!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I highly doubt that! Its a brand name kit and shines bright purple. I used to have the wimpy purple PIAAs, but they suck! I dont have a pic, but did a comparison with my hids and the old PIAAs. I was an insane difference. My lights don't shine too high and they dont bounce off of street lights, but I can see a million times farther at night. Good luck with your wimpy 6000K set-up!
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Brand name doesn't matter. You must be an idiot if you think that your 8000K setup produces more light output than a 6000K setup. Actually for the best light output, you'd want a 4300K HID setup.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Brand name doesn't matter. You must be an idiot if you think that your 8000K setup produces more light output than a 6000K setup. Actually for the best light output, you'd want a 4300K HID setup.
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Brand name doesn't matter. You must be an idiot if you think that your 8000K setup produces more light output than a 6000K setup. Actually for the best light output, you'd want a 4300K HID setup.
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How would a 4300K or 6000K be brighter than an 8000K set-up?
Brand name doesn't matter. You must be an idiot if you think that your 8000K setup produces more light output than a 6000K setup. Actually for the best light output, you'd want a 4300K HID setup.
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How would a 4300K or 6000K be brighter than an 8000K set-up?
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Read this thread: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...tness
Taken from the above link:
The common mistake some people here is that all these high kelvin rated bulbs are the shizzle. Well, they couldn't be more wrong. The higher you go in kelvin, the less light and lumens you'll have. Pratically anything over 6k is really a waste if your at all concerned with your safety and brightness of lighting. So what is the best bulb out there then you ask? 4100-4300k
Read this thread: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...tness
Taken from the above link:
The common mistake some people here is that all these high kelvin rated bulbs are the shizzle. Well, they couldn't be more wrong. The higher you go in kelvin, the less light and lumens you'll have. Pratically anything over 6k is really a waste if your at all concerned with your safety and brightness of lighting. So what is the best bulb out there then you ask? 4100-4300k
lol, this thread is funny..they're actually trying to argue against Patrick...funny just reading there come backs.. good job trying to insult the 6000k setup..his is actually 4300k or so around there, and it'd kill your 8000k plug and play kit setup...no ands or buts.
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Read this thread: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...tness
Taken from the above link:
The common mistake some people here is that all these high kelvin rated bulbs are the shizzle. Well, they couldn't be more wrong. The higher you go in kelvin, the less light and lumens you'll have. Pratically anything over 6k is really a waste if your at all concerned with your safety and brightness of lighting. So what is the best bulb out there then you ask? 4100-4300k </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see what you're saying now. Yes, the 4100-4300K are brighter than the 8000k system. Thanks for the link. I feel wiser now!! But, just for the record, my purpleish beam is killer!
Read this thread: http://www.hidplanet.com/forum...tness
Taken from the above link:
The common mistake some people here is that all these high kelvin rated bulbs are the shizzle. Well, they couldn't be more wrong. The higher you go in kelvin, the less light and lumens you'll have. Pratically anything over 6k is really a waste if your at all concerned with your safety and brightness of lighting. So what is the best bulb out there then you ask? 4100-4300k </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see what you're saying now. Yes, the 4100-4300K are brighter than the 8000k system. Thanks for the link. I feel wiser now!! But, just for the record, my purpleish beam is killer!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I highly doubt that! Its a brand name kit and shines bright purple. I used to have the wimpy purple PIAAs, but they suck! I dont have a pic, but did a comparison with my hids and the old PIAAs. I was an insane difference. My lights don't shine too high and they dont bounce off of street lights, but I can see a million times farther at night. Good luck with your wimpy 6000K set-up!
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My setup is 100% OEM HID, projectors, bulbs, ballasts, the whole shebang (OEM meaning 4300K bulbs, which is what all manufacturers equip cars with from the factory).
And BTW white light > purple light, all day any day (or night).
</TD></TR></TABLE>My setup is 100% OEM HID, projectors, bulbs, ballasts, the whole shebang (OEM meaning 4300K bulbs, which is what all manufacturers equip cars with from the factory).
And BTW white light > purple light, all day any day (or night).






