I have a plan for my '96 Integra GS-R and i wanted to get some feedback from more experienced tuners..

1st thing i want to do is Intake and exhaust, i've got the intake part done - AEM cold-air intake.. next is the exhaust - a 4-2-1 DC sport ceramic header
MOST people stop there.. or a copule mods later... not me - i have a plan to puch out as much power out of the b18c1 as i can while still keeping it drivable and compromising as little as possible.
After the intake and exhaust i wanted to save up for stage II either comp or crower cams with all the valves, retainers, and springs -also putting on some adjustible cam gears. A friend of mine is in racing right now and told me he'd port an polish my head for me, i figure i could get that done while i have it apart, then installing a Skunk2 intake manifold. - thats my first wave of plans

When all that is said and done the serious mods start comming out.. this stuff im planning to get done by next summer.
First things first, what i've learned from my muscle car buddies is that there is no replacement for displacement with that said i'd like to bore out my block .20 and throwing on JE Pistons (and all the necessary parts) boosting the compression ratio to 12.5:1. After that im investing on a direct port injeciton nitrous system and AEM's porgramable EMS.

or ?
Let me know what you think or if theres something i should consider

Thanks

 

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MOST people stop there.. or a copule mods later... not me </TD></TR></TABLE>

::shakes head::

you want REAL power out of your GSR? TURBO it, at like 7-8psi so you can keep stock internals, and it would still be easily streetable...and you'd have like 250-280whp with the right set up. Then you could beat your muscle car friends with all their displacement.

btw, search. and welcome.

 

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::shakes head::

you want REAL power out of your GSR? TURBO it, at like 7-8psi so you can keep stock internals, and it would still be easily streetable...and you'd have like 250-280whp with the right set up. Then you could beat your muscle car friends with all their displacement.

btw, search. and welcome.</TD></TR></TABLE>

100%

 

i would def. go with nothing but JE pistons...any other and youre bound to run into problems

 

Yah, i know what you mean, i considered a turbo, but i've also herd that theres problems with them, and that its a huge difference over N/A. I don't know if i'd trust that much power just from a turbo.. i'd like to have power in the low and midrage too. i've also herd that you can't have high compression - WRX's run at a 8.5:1 compression so it can handle the psi of the turbo. I've even herd that its not a good idea to run nitrous. I've read a lot about turbos and researched about the efficiency of a twin turbo system.. one of my friend's had twin turbos in his '92 Integra - but they're hard to find - and usually by no-name companies you don't know if you can trust.

But i will definetly consider running a turbo - if it was a bigger engine like a prelude 2.2 or 2.4 i would go for it no doubt.. but in the 1.8s or smaller im a little IFFY

 

This is your first post?
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Can you back up this retarded claim with factual data? Didn't think so. The reality is, there are many companies out there that make quality pistons...which brings it down to YOUR personal preference and YOUR personal opinion. JE's are good but let's not forget the other major players. The key element is to make sure they are forged out of top quality material.

Aloha,
Brandon - who now is worried that his 84mm CP pistons will not be good enough :shakes head:

 

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your friend had twin turbo's in his teg? riiiiiiiiiight.

 

yah - its not impossible buddy... something called custom

 

Twin turbo in his 92 teg...?

I heard he also ran a 9 second flat at palmdale...so much torque..his chassis twisted comin off the line...

 

Funny

 

Im jus messin with u...im still trial usin buddy

 

ha, this guys gonna put 8 grand into his b18c motor and max out hp around 200whp.

b18b=$750
greddy turbo kit=$2200 w/o intercooler
tune @$150 hourly, $300

hp potential around 300
tq potential WAY MORE than any N/A b18c.

Dont let me shoot your dreams down though. But ive been in the working class for a few years, and know a little bit about economic cost and whatnot.

 

all motor is pretty expensive.. turbo is the way to go if you wanna be quick in a teg. but as far as your plans go.. sounds good to me. should work on your fuel system before you spray though.. walbro pump, rail, fpr, & some kind of fuel management.. an afc or even the aem you mentioned. good luck..

 

doesnt matter if u go N/A or Turbo just got to be careful if u want it done right u can totally **** up both if u dont do it correctly.

like others have suggested above you could just go for the greddy turbo kit it you will be makin an easy 240-280whp. just think about ur goals were u wanna go with the car.

 

And a stand alone fuel managment system...not a bad way to spend 10,000 dollars!

 

i would say before you jump into things, go read in both the all motor/turbo forums of this site. . then ask your self what your looking for ?

all motor and turbo are both good, dont let anyone tell you otherwise . .

oem pistons are great too. . and just in case anyone was unsure about any pistons BESIDES JE CP pistons are great too
other then that just read and learn, and if you havent already, log on to team-integra.net dont bother with the forum on there( its a piece of ****, filled with people who dont know what there tlakin about, run by people who dont know what there talkin about, that are also *****) and just read the articles, dont even go into the forum, just a waste of time

P.S. read about what are good intakes, headers that are good, that DC sports **** isnt gonna cut it for real power, thats ***** gay anyway

 

go All Motor Turbo....lmao

If turbo is too $$ for u..try to get friendly with BUDDY-CLUB cams III or V.with right tune (sping&retainer upgrade MUST go with buddyclub cams)

 

Research...research....research!! It seems like you want to make a big investment in this project so its important that you come up with goals for it and go from there.

 

why would you guys laugh about a twin turbo integra? Are you guys just show car people? or need to get out more?

I guess its not beleivable for a twin turbo civic huh?

 

good info

 

that thing is crazy

 

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Because its pointless and retarded.

 

see.. u guys thought i was crazy

Anyways.. i've been researching integras for the past year.. and i finally got a gsr about 6 months ago and just recently drew up that plan.. I guess i went for the easy stuff.. i didn't realize how much tuning is involved in turbocharging. I've been working on cars since i can remember and just started learning about turbos about 2 years ago - i just thought it was an easy way out and i HATE the easy way out - when i think of a turbo i think someone spends 2 hours putting it on and bam.. instant 80-100 horses and stop there.

BUT - Research i shall.. Is there any no-no's for turbo?.. i know high compression is one.. is there any other pointers?.. i've read tons of turbo fourms and have herd things here and there

 

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Is there any no-no's for turbo?.. i know high compression is one.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just research and you'll learn that your quote about high compression being bad is one of MANY, MANY myths being spread around by retards to probably have never had a turbocharged car before. The best advice i can give you is to just DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Dont go cheap because in the long run, you'll spend more. Also make sure you take it to a reputable tuner.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRStreetRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yah, i know what you mean, i considered a turbo, but i've also herd that theres problems with them, and that its a huge difference over N/A. I don't know if i'd trust that much power just from a turbo.. i'd like to have power in the low and midrage too. i've also herd that you can't have high compression - WRX's run at a 8.5:1 compression so it can handle the psi of the turbo. I've even herd that its not a good idea to run nitrous. I've read a lot about turbos and researched about the efficiency of a twin turbo system.. one of my friend's had twin turbos in his '92 Integra - but they're hard to find - and usually by no-name companies you don't know if you can trust.

But i will definetly consider running a turbo - if it was a bigger engine like a prelude 2.2 or 2.4 i would go for it no doubt.. but in the 1.8s or smaller im a little IFFY</TD></TR></TABLE>


Listen to yourself...
You want midrange power? Then go for a smaller sized turbo compared to your typical boost junkie who throws on a T3/To4E. Go with a Greddy 18g...Very good midrange power---quick spool.

And you can keep your internals stock for now if you can't afford pistons to lower your compression...what will make your car last is GOOD tuning.

Most people, including myself believe that what kills a boosted motor is bad tuning.