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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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I just installed a new z6 in my hatchback and having problems starting it up. Anyone have any tips going about this? Some detailed directions would be great. I did a search but there wasn't much detailed information.

Things I've checked:
- the spark plug wire sparks
- hoses
- fuses
- wiring

Any help will be greatly appreciated
The engine is cranking, turning over, but just not starting. It does smell like fuel so I'm sure it's getting fuel. I checked for spark by putting the spark plug wire next to a bolt and yes it sparked. As far as timing goes, this engine was removed from a running civic 3-4 months ago. It started right up back then, but it has just been sitting for the past 3-4 months. As for the plugs, everything is plugged in.

If you can point out what's wrong and give me detailed instructions how to go about fixing it, I'll paypal you $20. Remember, your suggestion is worth $20 if it starts my engine.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Checking for fuel by saying 'it smells like fuel' isnt always the best way.

When you turn your key to the 'on' position (the one right before the engine starts to crank) do you hear the main relay click and the fuel pump prime?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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yea the fuel prime, i can hear it, i open the mail relay, its fine
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Do you hear the main relay clicking though, it should be clicking on/off with the fuel pump prime.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Also, this might sound stupid but i have seen distributor caps go bad, and still send a spark out to one or two cylinders. If you have a spare cap lying around try swapping it out to see what happens.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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yea, i checked them all for spark, it works
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Well, if youre sure you have spark and youre sure you have fuel because you smell it, im going to go with timing. I know you said the engines been sitting but i dont think it would hurt to pull that timing cover off and take a look. Valvecover as well, this could be a mechanical problem.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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just put new spark plugs in and newly charged battery and it should run.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Check the firing order of the spark plug wires. Where they unmounted from the cap, if so then if they were put on the wrong spot on the distributor then it will not run.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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theres new spark plugs and a new battery
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Does it have gas in it?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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yea theres gas, i added 2 more gallons this morning
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Undo the fuel rail and ull the injectors a few inches away from the holes, put a rag under them and try to start it see if fuel actually comes out of the injectors.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Also, so this motor was pulled from the running car...
so the dist was never removed from the motor?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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I traced all the wires with my eyes in one of the pics he has up. It looks like the firing order is correct.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsVtec92Hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I traced all the wires with my eyes in one of the pics he has up. It looks like the firing order is correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i did that too it looks ok
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks for trying to help me.

Here's an update:
When I had the injectors out of the intake manifold and tried to start it, the injectors didn't shoot out fuel. Is this how it is suppose to be?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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No they should be shooting fuel. Its either something clogging your fuel rail, or your injectors are all clogged, each and every one of 'em.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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when i pull out the injectors from teh rail, fuel squirts out. The 240cc came out of a running motor that i took out, can it clog up in 3 days? I tried putting one of my dsm injectors, fuel isn't coming out still
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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do you know what the voltage should be across the injector clips when u are cranking it?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Are all the grounds connected? also does the car have an alarm on it? this may be preventing it also.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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yea all grounds are connected
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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ecu is good?
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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hey, what ecu are u running? obd1? obd2? what year is that motor and the injectors?

could be possible the impedence/ohms on the injectors is off.... do u need a Resistor box in there..?... u may. if u need one and u dont have one. the inj's will not fire.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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obd1, i tried a p06 and a p28
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