Anyone know where I can get my tires inflated with Nitrogen within the Toronto area??

 

waste of time, money, etc.

 

How much more does it cost and how much weight do you save?

 

Actually the air we breathe is about 80% nitrogen anyway, so using pure Nitrogen may not be worth it

 

Cosco

 

Taking off the stem-caps will have the same weight savings.

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What, I have never heard of this... what is the benefit of this?

 

just buy a couple cans refried beans and fill your tires with good ol' methane.....hey it's free...

 

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A more stable economy.

 

http://www.cartalk.com/content....html

 

what's the advantage over air?
is it really worth it?
what's the propose for it? weight reduction?

 

Nitrogen is used mainly for the track as it doesn't expand/contract with temperature changes, resulting in stable tire pressures. No need for it on the street and quite frankly in my own opinion would be somewhat of a waste on the track unless you're looking to eliminate one variable when tuning suspension.

 

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Thanks.

 

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and Thanks.

 

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costco

 

Nitrogen atom is much bigger the the oxygen atom. much more stable tire pressure. fill it up once and the nitrogen dosent leak out of the sidewalls and tread bands like oxygen does. this will lead to better gas mileage because the tires will always be inflated to the proper specs. nitrogen leaks out too but not nearly as qucikly. also tires fileld with nitrogen will last longer, as the air permeates slower. if air permeates slower so does the rate of chemical aging. also as stated above, the nitrogen doesnt get laden with water vapor like oxygen does, making the nitrogen not heat up and expand/ contract. consistent temps, pressure, and tread life

 

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Uhh yes it does. You will see a pressure increase with higher temps. The reason that it's more desirable for race cars is that it is more predictable than normal air. However, "dry" air is practically just as good. It's the water vapor that causes the problem.

 

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not even sure where to begin on this one.

-Dave, who's normal air filled ES100s lose 0 psi over 1.5 years at least. Hell I rarely fill them up before switching to new tires and if I do it's cause there's a real leak.

 

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It's been covered several times in the past.

If you have to pay for it it's just not worth it if it's for a dd.

Here's a quote from Henry A. Watts in his book "The Secrets of Solo Racing":

<U>Nitrogen in Tires?</U> "Nitrogen, like all gasses, follows the ideal gas law, which states that temperature and pressure (given a constant volume) are directly proportional.

So, if nitrogen gets hot, it <U>will</U> expand. Since it has about the same specific heat as oxygen, it <U>will</U> get as hot.

Air is about 80% nitrogen in any case.

Nitrogen is also extremely inconvenient to carry around."


But of course there's more:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1092680

&

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=477235


If those ain't enough...

 

You don't have to preach to me Anton

-Dave

 

Key thing to remember is regular air is 80% Nitrogen.

Is it worth paying 5 bucks a tire for that 20%??

In short - no.

They are just looking for another way to steal money out of your wallet.

 

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By this logic j00 could fill up j00r tires with air and only end up with nitrogen in the end?

.....right....it's amazing how much misinformation is still floating around these days....j00'd think it get weeded out.

 

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I know, I could see the impending exasperation, and was doing nothing at work as usual so...

 

explain how this is misinformation. this is correct....you say this is wrong and then say that air does the same....i got some of this info from Tomorrow Technician Magazine..what about it is incorrect....where do u get your info from?

 

not to be an ***...but have you ever used nitrogen in your tires to say that it expands when it gets hot, or are you jsut basing this info on stuff that you have read?