The eagle has landed...
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The eagle has landed...
and the rebuild can begin. FINALLY! It has been a long long 2 months.
For starters-
Hondata K-Pro the proper way to tune a K series
Trap doors closed
Trap doors opened
Had Ron from IPS purchase a new oilpan and bring it over to Joe from Prototype to install his baffle/trap door system. This should prevent the oil starvation from happening again when I am doing gymkana.
Enjo front engine and rear tranny mount. I currently have the Mugen 3 piece kit, it is only about 10% stiffer than stock, I will continue to use the 2 side mounts from the Mugen kit and replace the front engine mount. This should help keep the engine in place because of its increased output.
And the final piece I have been waiting for...
Some new bumpsticks from IPS.
Other goodies going on, C&R aluminum radiator, Samco coolant hoses, Mugen headgasket(up compression to about 11.9:1), low-temp thermo and fan switch, and Hondata IM gasket.
I am hoping once everything is installed and tuned to be at about 275 crank hp or about 230-40whp. Possibly more
Chris
For starters-
Hondata K-Pro the proper way to tune a K series
Trap doors closed
Trap doors opened
Had Ron from IPS purchase a new oilpan and bring it over to Joe from Prototype to install his baffle/trap door system. This should prevent the oil starvation from happening again when I am doing gymkana.
Enjo front engine and rear tranny mount. I currently have the Mugen 3 piece kit, it is only about 10% stiffer than stock, I will continue to use the 2 side mounts from the Mugen kit and replace the front engine mount. This should help keep the engine in place because of its increased output.
And the final piece I have been waiting for...
Some new bumpsticks from IPS.
Other goodies going on, C&R aluminum radiator, Samco coolant hoses, Mugen headgasket(up compression to about 11.9:1), low-temp thermo and fan switch, and Hondata IM gasket.
I am hoping once everything is installed and tuned to be at about 275 crank hp or about 230-40whp. Possibly more
Chris
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From: Yamato-Shi, Kanagawa, Japan
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Well I haven't seen the OBX cams so I can't compare. Where are the OBX cams made?
Taken from the IPS website...
IPS cams are ground on new half chilled iron billets. As far as we know, other quality K-series cams on the market are ground on fully chilled billets. A chill is a metal heat sink placed in the sand mold that the billets are made in. The chill speeds the hardening of the molten iron and imparts metallurgical changes that make the iron harder and wear resistant right where it needs it most, on the surface of lobe. In between the lobes cools slower and stays tough and ductile resisting breaking. Normally this is a great thing. Unfortunately on a VTEC engine there are so many lobes that the whole cam becomes over chilled and brittle. A fully chilled billet will break easily.
Other manufacturers don’t bother with chills; it’s much easier and cheaper to make a billet this way. The billet is break resistant, the lobes are much easier and cheaper to grind but the cam will wear much faster.
We use half chilled billets. This is where a small chill is placed right on the top of the lobe in the mold. That way the base circle of the lobe stays soft and the opening and closing side of the lobe gets hard. The wear resistance is where it’s needed yet the cam still resists breaking. A half chilled lobe is still difficult and time consuming to grind but it produces a cam with the best features of both worlds. To our knowledge we are the only K-series cam makers that use half chilled billets.
Our cams are ground on precision CNC cam grinding machines. We also use small diameter grinding wheels. This is much more expensive than normal because a small wheel removes material slower and must be dressed more frequently. A small wheel is necessary to create the reverse flank that roller cams need and to create the subtleties in our lobe profile. Typically other cam makers use larger wheels to cut grinding time and costs and cannot produce a reverse flank.
To reduce wear and friction and to speed break in, our lobes and journals are micropolished after grinding. Most cam makers parkerize their cams, but we have found that micropolishing actually works better. Your factory Honda cams are micropolished for a reason and we wanted to duplicate that.
Straight from the source.
Taken from the IPS website...
IPS cams are ground on new half chilled iron billets. As far as we know, other quality K-series cams on the market are ground on fully chilled billets. A chill is a metal heat sink placed in the sand mold that the billets are made in. The chill speeds the hardening of the molten iron and imparts metallurgical changes that make the iron harder and wear resistant right where it needs it most, on the surface of lobe. In between the lobes cools slower and stays tough and ductile resisting breaking. Normally this is a great thing. Unfortunately on a VTEC engine there are so many lobes that the whole cam becomes over chilled and brittle. A fully chilled billet will break easily.
Other manufacturers don’t bother with chills; it’s much easier and cheaper to make a billet this way. The billet is break resistant, the lobes are much easier and cheaper to grind but the cam will wear much faster.
We use half chilled billets. This is where a small chill is placed right on the top of the lobe in the mold. That way the base circle of the lobe stays soft and the opening and closing side of the lobe gets hard. The wear resistance is where it’s needed yet the cam still resists breaking. A half chilled lobe is still difficult and time consuming to grind but it produces a cam with the best features of both worlds. To our knowledge we are the only K-series cam makers that use half chilled billets.
Our cams are ground on precision CNC cam grinding machines. We also use small diameter grinding wheels. This is much more expensive than normal because a small wheel removes material slower and must be dressed more frequently. A small wheel is necessary to create the reverse flank that roller cams need and to create the subtleties in our lobe profile. Typically other cam makers use larger wheels to cut grinding time and costs and cannot produce a reverse flank.
To reduce wear and friction and to speed break in, our lobes and journals are micropolished after grinding. Most cam makers parkerize their cams, but we have found that micropolishing actually works better. Your factory Honda cams are micropolished for a reason and we wanted to duplicate that.
Straight from the source.
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Re: The eagle has landed... (b19coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And this is ITR related how? 
I have heard good things about those IPS bumpstix </TD></TR></TABLE>
The sig sir. DC5R
Doesn't mean if it's not a DC2R it's not a ITR at all.
Nice cams Tell us how they perform once you get them in
<--------- is considering a DC5R again now.
I have heard good things about those IPS bumpstix
</TD></TR></TABLE>The sig sir. DC5R
Doesn't mean if it's not a DC2R it's not a ITR at all.Nice cams
Tell us how they perform once you get them in<--------- is considering a DC5R again now.
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Re: The eagle has landed... (mafay2)
and fyi, he is talking about a different ips than what the itr folk know of.
http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/
cool shizzle
http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/
cool shizzle
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Re: The eagle has landed... (ScreaminTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScreaminTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> sweet!</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice location
sweet!</TD></TR></TABLE>nice location
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Re: The eagle has landed... (DC5RK20A)
Nice!
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
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Re: The eagle has landed... (mythias)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice!
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
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So it does.
Wonder if Doug and Derrick realize this?
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
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So it does.
Wonder if Doug and Derrick realize this?
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Re: The eagle has landed... (mythias)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mythias »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice!
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
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And isn't that all for lowercase characters?
On a dorky note (since I am a total dork), the binary code below HONDATA is a missspelling so to speak. Its binary for HONDATD, and not HONDATA.
Too much time on my hands...
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And isn't that all for lowercase characters?
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Re: The eagle has landed... (DC5RK20A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC5RK20A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So it does. Wonder if Doug and Derrick realize this? </TD></TR></TABLE>
They've been informed...and apparently deny it.
Wonder if Doug and Derrick realize this? </TD></TR></TABLE>They've been informed...and apparently deny it.
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Re: The eagle has landed... (JDM2ndGen)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM2ndGen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice stuff :drool:</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like exactly what you need, Joe
Sounds like exactly what you need, Joe
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Re: The eagle has landed... (opie)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by opie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds like exactly what you need, Joe</TD></TR></TABLE>yea your right ...and im in the process and taking pics of all my Rocket B series stuff to sell and a bunch of other stuff i have lying around
Sounds like exactly what you need, Joe
</TD></TR></TABLE>yea your right ...and im in the process and taking pics of all my Rocket B series stuff to sell and a bunch of other stuff i have lying around