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Modified by H.crx-si at 8:50 PM 8/27/2005

 

ever consider ls/vtec? can't go wrong with internal parts neither....

 

cams would help and get it tuned

 

You should look into a b16 tranny. That will at least make use of the torque you have, and make it feel a lot faster. After that, you could do cams, or just read up on FI, learn more, and get a gsr tranny w/ a nice pretty turbo.

 

go with crower 403 or 404's and tune it. just did mine and I liked the results. I went with the 403's for daily driving

 

dude, get a b16 or gsr tranny then look into some cams and springs

 

There are a lot of good suggestion already; since money is a factory go in little sets.

- Get p30 / pr3 pistons from a b16 to bump your comp
- Swap the transmission to a type-r/gsr/b16
- Get a valve train and cams

 

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Modified by H.crx-si at 8:50 PM 8/27/2005

 

Seriously, gsr trans... bigger difference than you think.

 

Hate to break it to you... But B18B N/A's aren't really a force to be reckoned with. If you really want to stay NA, you should probably look into a B18C swap... or LS/Vtec.

But honestly the best bang for the buck is boost.

 

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But honestly the best bang for the buck is boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>


oh yea?....well ill find that out after i build my ls,,,,,i shooting for 170+ whp on my build ....to me i love the ls motors ...lol

 

you can buy a gsr head, header, and the computer and they will bolt right up and if you do buy all that stuff a ls motor will produce about the same amout of horsepower as the gsr does... or if you don't go that way there is another way {more air+more fuel= horsepower you can get bigger injecters and just little stuff like that will increase you horepower..... but i likr the gsr swap that's what i did and it really helped out alot!!!! so i hope i did answer you Question....

 

go with the cams or the head, and michael, injectors wont do much in with just basic bolt ons

 

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Modified by H.crx-si at 8:50 PM 8/27/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H.crx-si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as the gsr tranny goes arn't the first gear identical and the 2nd gear really close to being almost identical? So any accel will only be felt from say the 3rd gear and up? I may consider doing the ls vtec build..... But a guy with this setup
95 civic h/b B18b swap/intake/JG 301 cams/chipped ecu/DC sports header and a 2"exhaust ran a 13.93 @ 97.4mph so that gives me some hope for a n/a LS

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the first and second in the ls and gsr's are the same gearing, but the 3,4,5 are shorter

 

I have an ls n/a want to boost but I run 13:8 in a fully dressed 98 teg not a light 95 hb and I went with b16 tranny CTR pistons and a DH-RACING STAGE3 ls head with there custom intake manifold and 70mm throttle body with k&n intake/DC ceramic header. I dynoed in at 223 all LS horses and 158 ft tourqe. When I get the money together for the turbo then I will really have some fun.To answer your ? I would start with the B16 tranny much tighter gears quicker acceleration!

 

b16 tranny, cams, lightened flywheel will help u.

 

best way to make power NA for an LS would be this set up and it'll cost you around 1,500 - 2,200 depending on where you get your parts and such.
ALL-MOTOR LS MONSTER BUILD

I/H/E
crower 403/404 cams
crower dual valve springs
crower titanium retainers
sprockets/cam gears
mild port and polish
skunk2 Intake Manifold

depending on how well you tune it you can find power to the wheels around 150-175 depending on your tuning. And since you already have headers and exhaust it should cost around 2000 and down for this setup. And adding a B16 tranny(if you want) will make acceleration ALOT faster! BUILT LS are very underrated IMO. that'll take out B16s and you'll be placed in and above GSRs depending on your tuning.

 

most LS's will beat a b16a swap anyway. (quarter mile) have you ever seen an overlayed dyno graph of the two? b16's dont start making more power until after 6k!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by darkblue1998ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an ls n/a want to boost but I run 13:8 in a fully dressed 98 teg not a light 95 hb and I went with b16 tranny CTR pistons and a DH-RACING STAGE3 ls head with there custom intake manifold and 70mm throttle body with k&n intake/DC ceramic header. I dynoed in at 223 all LS horses and 158 ft tourqe. When I get the money together for the turbo then I will really have some fun.To answer your ? I would start with the B16 tranny much tighter gears quicker acceleration! </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you freakin serious, 223 i doubt it.....make me happy and prove me wrong

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H.crx-si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As far as the gsr tranny goes arn't the first gear identical and the 2nd gear really close to being almost identical? So any accel will only be felt from say the 3rd gear and up? I may consider doing the ls vtec build..... But a guy with this setup
95 civic h/b B18b swap/intake/JG 301 cams/chipped ecu/DC sports header and a 2"exhaust ran a 13.93 @ 97.4mph so that gives me some hope for a n/a LS

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no and yes, between the two trannies 1st, 2nd, and reverse are the same gearings 3rd, 4th, 5th are different....you will feel a difference from 1st through reverse the reason why is due to the 4.4 fd the gsr has, where as the ls is 4.266....torque multiplcation factor, big BIG difference in preformance

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HmgLauj69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no and yes, between the two trannies 1st, 2nd, and reverse are the same gearings 3rd, 4th, 5th are different....you will feel a difference from 1st through reverse the reason why is due to the 4.4 fd the gsr has, where as the ls is 4.266....torque multiplcation factor, big BIG difference in preformance</TD></TR></TABLE>

And the b16 is even shorter than that. =P B16 Tranny! I love mine. Except when cruising on the freeway at 75+.

 

I'd get a b16 or gsr tranny...the ls tranny has to long of a final drive...and then some stage 2 crower cams..it'll feel like a b16 with vtec on all the time...

 

im also in the same boat as this guy... looking at some ls work. for the first step who would recommend internals or a tranny swap first???

 

Lets make things simple.

LS engines need 3 things

More air
More compression
Shorter gears

What header are you running now? Do you have a cat (that will kill some power)? This needs to remain streetable and not annoying as **** to drive, correct? If so, 404's are out of the question without serious tuning and cam gears. I know. I had them in my LS. Great power, awful idle unless tuned to no end. I recommend a good header- at the very least something like a DC JDM 4-1. If you can afford a higher quality one (i like my vibrant JSPEC 4-2-1) go for it.

I do agree with the tranny swap, but that will get expensive and the ultra short 5th gear will make highway driving a pain with that engine. If you DO swap the tranny for a bad-*** VTEC one, get the LS 5th so cruising doesn't suck up too much gas. Ive seen an LS teg with a B16 tranny go 14.0 on slicks with just minor bolt-ons. Pretty good considering they go low 16's stock (at least in my part of the woods)

Lastly, for more power without screwing with your drivability, you can always get some PR3 pistons. Obviously, that requires a hell of a lot of work, but it is an option and will give you 10.8:1 compression. A less desirable option is milling the head- but that throws timing out of wack.

If I were in your position, Id keep the swap stockish and enjoy my quick EJ1.