200whp on oem parts?
You could probably do it with a GSR block, some CTR .25 over pistons, GSR head too, and some 2001 Type R cams with Hondata, you would probably come pretty close, you might need to port the head a little bit and use a Skunk2 or Blox IM, unless you used a Type R head and you had a Type R manifold but you would have more compression with the GSR head and CTR pistons than with a Type R/B16 head. That sounds about right, right people?
Most I have seen so far is a GSR block with P30 pistons and Type R cams making 180whp, but thats with no head porting and only 11.6:1 cr, with CTR pistons you would be closer to 12:1.
Most I have seen so far is a GSR block with P30 pistons and Type R cams making 180whp, but thats with no head porting and only 11.6:1 cr, with CTR pistons you would be closer to 12:1.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbofienD 04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">allmotor or turbo?</TD></TR></TABLE>
considering this is in the all motor section I think that statement is a little silly.
considering this is in the all motor section I think that statement is a little silly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreStaged12s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">considering this is in the all motor section I think that statement is a little silly.
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but you never know people these days
</TD></TR></TABLE>but you never know people these days
a friend of mines made 190whp on his OEM honda parts for his GSR
main ingrediants:
pr3 pistons
ctr cams, itr valvetrain
skunk2 im/64mm tb
jdm itr headers
head ported and milled
on hondata and lots of tunning
main ingrediants:
pr3 pistons
ctr cams, itr valvetrain
skunk2 im/64mm tb
jdm itr headers
head ported and milled
on hondata and lots of tunning
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aLLmTreK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend of mines made 190whp on his OEM honda parts for his GSR
main ingrediants:
pr3 pistons
ctr cams, itr valvetrain
skunk2 im/64mm tb
jdm itr headers
head ported and milled
<FONT COLOR="red"><FONT SIZE="3">on hondata and lots of tunning</FONT></FONT>
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thats the key right thuurrr
main ingrediants:
pr3 pistons
ctr cams, itr valvetrain
skunk2 im/64mm tb
jdm itr headers
head ported and milled
<FONT COLOR="red"><FONT SIZE="3">on hondata and lots of tunning</FONT></FONT>
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thats the key right thuurrr
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Tuning is the key, plus I dont know why people always rave about CTR cams so much, they are the same things as 2001 ITR cams that you can buy from anyone.
Also to aLLmTrek, who is your friend? Is he from Alameda?
Also to aLLmTrek, who is your friend? Is he from Alameda?
You are probably going to need to run civic type r pistons or atleast p30 since any lil bit of power you can get is needed. But the biggest factor is going to be the head flow, headers and tuning.
i was damn close, 197/139 through the exhaust
compression wasnt that high either
Mods:
-Gsr shortblock with oversized ITR pistons
-ITR head milled 20 tho
-Toda Header
-AEB intake manifold
-ITR TB
-Apex-i N1 catback with testpipe
-Jun cam gears
-Home Depot Special CAI
-Hondata S100
check my sig for links
compression wasnt that high either
Mods:
-Gsr shortblock with oversized ITR pistons
-ITR head milled 20 tho
-Toda Header
-AEB intake manifold
-ITR TB
-Apex-i N1 catback with testpipe
-Jun cam gears
-Home Depot Special CAI
-Hondata S100
check my sig for links
my friend had a jdm itr motor. built by comptech. it had .25 over ctr pistons, fully ported head and manifold, 97 spec itr cams,comptech 4-2-1 headers on 91 pump gas and obd2 ecu made 200 hp, dyno was done at JG .i guess here it was all in the head work. he told me one of his old friend ported his head, his friend is a old school amiercan v8 guy. the car ran 13.2 in a ek coupe on street tires with jdm itr piston. car was stolen a few months after the new motor was built and tune, so never got to time it
Modified by NA916DragSter at 7:02 PM 3/14/2005
Modified by NA916DragSter at 7:02 PM 3/14/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BryanEk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If thats all it takes to make 200 than why are people with buddy club III's and S2s2's barely making over 200, even with the tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE> may be because sum people dont know how to build the motor rite. or may be the tuner
If I were trying to do it, here's what I'd do, making the assumption that the rules included not modifying any of the OEM parts, exception being the ECU:
OEM oversize PCT pistons
OEM 00/01 ITR head with cams and complete valvetrain
OEM ITR intake mani and throttle body, no intake
OEM headgasket with center layer removed
OEM JDM 4-1 header, no cat or exhaust
OEM CTR N1 crank pulley
Crome equipped P30 ECU
Not sure it would make 200 whp, but I do believe I could get it pretty damn close.
OEM oversize PCT pistons
OEM 00/01 ITR head with cams and complete valvetrain
OEM ITR intake mani and throttle body, no intake
OEM headgasket with center layer removed
OEM JDM 4-1 header, no cat or exhaust
OEM CTR N1 crank pulley
Crome equipped P30 ECU
Not sure it would make 200 whp, but I do believe I could get it pretty damn close.
although tuning is always the big factor,
its impossible to compare between dynos, epecially when they could be at much different altitudes and ambient air temperatures, different types of dynos and calibration, etc, etc, etc.
one persons 195whp setup in arizona could just as easily be over 200 on a different dyno in jersey, or one across the street for that matter.
its impossible to compare between dynos, epecially when they could be at much different altitudes and ambient air temperatures, different types of dynos and calibration, etc, etc, etc.
one persons 195whp setup in arizona could just as easily be over 200 on a different dyno in jersey, or one across the street for that matter.
191whp and 137 ft/lbs of torque with absolutely no cam tuning.
setup:
B18c1 block and head.
Head is milled .008
ITR valves, retainers, springs.
Skunk 2 stage 1 cams
Skunk2 mani
Hondata Gasket
bored TB
Aem intake.
11.5:1 compression
OS ITR pistons
GSR rods
Greddy header
Apexi WS exhaust
Hondata S200.
setup:
B18c1 block and head.
Head is milled .008
ITR valves, retainers, springs.
Skunk 2 stage 1 cams
Skunk2 mani
Hondata Gasket
bored TB
Aem intake.
11.5:1 compression
OS ITR pistons
GSR rods
Greddy header
Apexi WS exhaust
Hondata S200.
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