track whores who race in the rain vid
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track ****** who race in the rain vid
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (racing_beat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racing_beat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.impreza.nu/ssi2/exp...O.mpg
DONT DRIVE UR
IN THE RAIN </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow. I didn't see that coming.
-Chris
DONT DRIVE UR
IN THE RAIN </TD></TR></TABLE>Wow. I didn't see that coming.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (racing_beat)
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What did you yell? It wasn't "Oh Shiiiiiiiiit!!!" Have anymore of that vid before the wreck? What was just ahead of you in that right hand turn off that straight? Was it a car that wasn't moving?
What did you yell? It wasn't "Oh Shiiiiiiiiit!!!" Have anymore of that vid before the wreck? What was just ahead of you in that right hand turn off that straight? Was it a car that wasn't moving?
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (racing_beat)
This a repost from the Kills forum:
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (racing_beat)
i saw this video the other day and it was a pretty violent crash. i sustained body damage after autocrossing in the rain so i will definitely avoid racing in the rain from now on. also, people were talking about how his suspension sucked so hydroplane + weight transfer from back to front when lifting off the throttle caused him to lose control. 
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (racing_beat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racing_beat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
DONT DRIVE UR IN THE RAIN </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why?
I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
Unfortunately sometimes situations like that happen. It can happen in the dry or cold as well.
It looked pretty violent and I hope the driver was ok but if you aren't aware of the potential hazards of tracking then it might not be the sport for you. Before you sign up for an event you should comprehend that you may potentially total your car, injure yourself or even die. These are the inherent risks.
I am a firm supporter of autocross and HPDE tracking in the wet.
And I hope the above driver was not injured.
DONT DRIVE UR
IN THE RAIN </TD></TR></TABLE>Why?
I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
Unfortunately sometimes situations like that happen. It can happen in the dry or cold as well.
It looked pretty violent and I hope the driver was ok but if you aren't aware of the potential hazards of tracking then it might not be the sport for you. Before you sign up for an event you should comprehend that you may potentially total your car, injure yourself or even die. These are the inherent risks.
I am a firm supporter of autocross and HPDE tracking in the wet.
And I hope the above driver was not injured.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (1GreyTeg)
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I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
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You and anyone who also have a slight fade of common sense...
In the wet you can learn at lower speeds, what can appen in the dry at higher speeds due to higher grip...
It is obvious that in the wet you got to be more carefull.... you can't run the car, can't approach the corners the same way as when it's dry...
For me... the wet is an excellent school....but it's up to me to learn anything... just think what the master Ayrton Senna did whenever it was raining....it would go out immediatly to practice....that's how he run in the wet like few run in the dry...
I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
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You and anyone who also have a slight fade of common sense...
In the wet you can learn at lower speeds, what can appen in the dry at higher speeds due to higher grip...
It is obvious that in the wet you got to be more carefull.... you can't run the car, can't approach the corners the same way as when it's dry...
For me... the wet is an excellent school....but it's up to me to learn anything... just think what the master Ayrton Senna did whenever it was raining....it would go out immediatly to practice....that's how he run in the wet like few run in the dry...
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (1GreyTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
I am a firm supporter of autocross and HPDE tracking in the wet.
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wow. this has to be the smartest, most brilliant quote ever. better than an what we would expect from a class of 04. simply marvelous
I feel one of the best ways to learn car control is in the wet.
I am a firm supporter of autocross and HPDE tracking in the wet.
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wow. this has to be the smartest, most brilliant quote ever. better than an what we would expect from a class of 04. simply marvelous
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (JinDIESEL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JinDIESEL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow. this has to be the smartest, most brilliant quote ever. better than an what we would expect from a class of 04. simply marvelous </TD></TR></TABLE>
What's wrong with what Anton said?
I also promote tracking in the wet, much to be learned while going a tad slower and having a bunch less grip
But in learning there will be mistakes...
</TD></TR></TABLE>What's wrong with what Anton said?
I also promote tracking in the wet, much to be learned while going a tad slower and having a bunch less grip
But in learning there will be mistakes...
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (JinDIESEL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JinDIESEL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wow. this has to be the smartest, most brilliant quote ever.simply marvelous </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why thank you I'm glad we agree.
Next time try speaking from experience.
wow. this has to be the smartest, most brilliant quote ever.simply marvelous </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why thank you I'm glad we agree.
Next time try speaking from experience.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (1GreyTeg)
I also am a supporter of tracking in the rain. One of my first DEs was a rain day, and I learned sooo much about smoothness, especially concerning braking and accelerating. ANY DE has risk of serious injury to you or your car. The only difference is that the absolute limit of the car is a bit less in the rain (I recall reading something about traction being 20% less in the wet than in the dry, as a numerical comparison).
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (Bbasso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But in learning there will be mistakes... </TD></TR></TABLE>
and in the wet everything appens at slower speed, so the consequences of that mistakes are better....
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....
But in learning there will be mistakes... </TD></TR></TABLE>
and in the wet everything appens at slower speed, so the consequences of that mistakes are better....
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (UnhuZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UnhuZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and in the wet everything appens at slower speed, so the consequences of that mistakes are better....
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....
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What's your point? Are you trying to warn against HPDE's or Autocross altogether? Or do you just think it's too dangerous in the wet?
I think there might be a language barrier with us understanding eachother.
The Whole point of any HPDE is to Learn High Performance Driving. Which not only occurs during dry conditions but also in the wet and cold and other slippery track/road conditions.
Learning how to control a car in the wet is integral not only for HPDE but for daily driving as well. If you think we leave everything and every skill we learn at the track you couldn't be more mistaken. It affords such a great opportunity to learn understeer and oversteer, as well as different braking zones, grip, sliding, acceleration, the limit and control of all of these and more in a controlled environment.
I think it's extremely valuable. I'd go so far as to say that Everyone licensed on the road should be mandated to some sort of low speed car control clinic or drivers education for wet and or snowy conditions where applicable.
I hope those responding against wet weather tracking don't think it's safer to drive on public roads in the wet or dry.
This topic really shouldn't be here, it's not forum related. Maybe a mod will move it to RRAX.
and in the wet everything appens at slower speed, so the consequences of that mistakes are better....
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....
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What's your point? Are you trying to warn against HPDE's or Autocross altogether? Or do you just think it's too dangerous in the wet?
I think there might be a language barrier with us understanding eachother.
The Whole point of any HPDE is to Learn High Performance Driving. Which not only occurs during dry conditions but also in the wet and cold and other slippery track/road conditions.
Learning how to control a car in the wet is integral not only for HPDE but for daily driving as well. If you think we leave everything and every skill we learn at the track you couldn't be more mistaken. It affords such a great opportunity to learn understeer and oversteer, as well as different braking zones, grip, sliding, acceleration, the limit and control of all of these and more in a controlled environment.
I think it's extremely valuable. I'd go so far as to say that Everyone licensed on the road should be mandated to some sort of low speed car control clinic or drivers education for wet and or snowy conditions where applicable.
I hope those responding against wet weather tracking don't think it's safer to drive on public roads in the wet or dry.
This topic really shouldn't be here, it's not forum related. Maybe a mod will move it to RRAX.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (UnhuZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UnhuZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and in the wet everything appens at slower speed, so the consequences of that mistakes are better....
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.
imagine that video...in a dry event situation....the speed would be a lot faster, and in case of crash....the hit in the wall could be fatal.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (Bbasso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that guy was agreeing with you, Rob and Anton. Anyway I agree too.
-Chris
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that guy was agreeing with you, Rob and Anton. Anyway I agree too.
-Chris
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (Bbasso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my last hpde was in the rain. i could not have learned as much if it was dry. i really wish my first time on a new track can be a rain day so i become accustomed to it at a slightly lower speed. it was raining but i wasn't slow
There is so much wrong with what you said here that I'm not even going to go into it.
Like I said before and a few others are saying ... HPDE in wet/rain is beneficial to DD. Balance of a car is the #1 thing that is quickly taught by the car to the driver, and every driver should have this info in the back of their head at all times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my last hpde was in the rain. i could not have learned as much if it was dry. i really wish my first time on a new track can be a rain day so i become accustomed to it at a slightly lower speed. it was raining but i wasn't slow
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (1GreyTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think there might be a language barrier with us understanding eachother.
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I know i'm not English or American, i'm just portuguese, but i don't think that my english is that bad
What i'm up to here, is that driving in the wet is essential to know how to drive in the dry... in the wet, things appen a lot slower...it gives you time to correct things, to learn to correct things when they go wrong...in the dry, due to higher grip, things appen a lot faster...a lot harder....it's worse for you to learn...
that's why i told that wet is a great school...
is my english that bad !?!??!!?
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I know i'm not English or American, i'm just portuguese, but i don't think that my english is that bad
What i'm up to here, is that driving in the wet is essential to know how to drive in the dry... in the wet, things appen a lot slower...it gives you time to correct things, to learn to correct things when they go wrong...in the dry, due to higher grip, things appen a lot faster...a lot harder....it's worse for you to learn...
that's why i told that wet is a great school...
is my english that bad !?!??!!?
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (UnhuZ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UnhuZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I know i'm not English or American, i'm just portuguese, but i don't think that my english is that bad
What i'm up to here, is that driving in the wet is essential to know how to drive in the dry... in the wet, things appen a lot slower...it gives you time to correct things, to learn to correct things when they go wrong...in the dry, due to higher grip, things appen a lot faster...a lot harder....it's worse for you to learn...
that's why i told that wet is a great school...
is my english that bad !?!??!!?
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Ok I think we understand eachother. You then agree with Me, Rob, Chris, Adam, Etc.
The "appen" kinda threw me, you mean "happen" and a few other small things but I do understand you. I just didn't want this thread to turn into an ignorant flame fest where someone else was lamely trying to take it.
I know i'm not English or American, i'm just portuguese, but i don't think that my english is that bad
What i'm up to here, is that driving in the wet is essential to know how to drive in the dry... in the wet, things appen a lot slower...it gives you time to correct things, to learn to correct things when they go wrong...in the dry, due to higher grip, things appen a lot faster...a lot harder....it's worse for you to learn...
that's why i told that wet is a great school...
is my english that bad !?!??!!?
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Ok I think we understand eachother. You then agree with Me, Rob, Chris, Adam, Etc.
The "appen" kinda threw me, you mean "happen" and a few other small things but I do understand you. I just didn't want this thread to turn into an ignorant flame fest where someone else was lamely trying to take it.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (inSPICtorgadget)
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Are you serious?? That's your contribution to this post??
Looks like the 2005 members are gonna be even worse than 2004.
wow... that is some crazy shizzle... fo sheezy
</TD></TR></TABLE>Are you serious?? That's your contribution to this post??
Looks like the 2005 members are gonna be even worse than 2004.
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Re: track ****** who race in the rain vid (JinDIESEL)
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If you ever ran a road course in the wet, you would understand.
Clearly you have not, so that means you're just talking out of your ***.
</TD></TR></TABLE>If you ever ran a road course in the wet, you would understand.
Clearly you have not, so that means you're just talking out of your ***.