This is kind of a noob question... I want to know if i should get a skunk2 intake manifold or keep the OEM GSR one. I want to know if the torque loss i'll have if i switch to the skunk2 hurts more than the horsepower i'll get. let me here what ur opinions on the upgrade are. thanks in advance

p.s. i searched for this but couldn't find andy info, juss a dyno between a type r and a gsr with similar mods to them.

 

people say you lose low end torque with the skunk2 IM on a gsr....that wasnt the case in my situation. I dynoed my gsr after i did the skunk2 IM install with my custom all motor chipped p28. I made 167whp and a 132lbs of torque....i then dynoed with the stock ecu and only got 160whp and 119 lbs of torque.

 

I say get the Skunk2

 

do you think i will have torque problems after adding the itr ECU with the skunk2 manifold?

 

id say get the chipped from Ih8ricerz...its worth the money...either way ur going to need them in the future when u get the skunk2 manifold...

 

heh, get the skunk2 manifold and face it: N/A 4-bangers don't have torque. i'm just kidding, but i think there is quite some truth there.

 

i say get the skunk2 mani. it is kinda true that us fwd 4 bangers get screwed on the torque but atleast our hondas (if built) can wind out to 13k..like to see a z28 or a mustang do that

 

I lost some low end torque with my Skunk2 Manifold but the 3k-redline rush is worth it. The loss of torque is barely even noticeable and makes up for it where it counts.

 

Thanks for the input, i know what you're saying about the rush when the RPM's juss rush to redline, i've made up my mind and ordered the skunk2. hopefully i'll feel a nice power gain with the manifold and ecu on the butt dyno...hehe.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smkngsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id say get the chipped from Ih8ricerz...its worth the money...either way ur going to need them in the future when u get the skunk2 manifold...</TD></TR></TABLE>will that yield better gains than an itr ecu?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freshazzburu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the input, i know what you're saying about the rush when the RPM's juss rush to redline, i've made up my mind and ordered the skunk2. hopefully i'll feel a nice power gain with the manifold and ecu on the butt dyno...hehe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Freshazzburu. Think complete package. Not lego pieces.

Go here. Register, read articles and educate yourself. Good luck!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freshazzburu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">p.s. i searched for this but couldn't find andy info, juss a dyno between a type r and a gsr with similar mods to them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You kiddin me right?

https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch?id=10471212

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nexx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You kiddin me right?

https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch?id=10471212</TD></TR></TABLE>

I checked those out, but only 1 of those articles was relating to the gsr with a skunk2 intake manifold, and it was just a debate between getting the edelbrock or skunk2, i was concerned about if the torque loss would hurt more than the high end power gain since the OEM manifold for a GSR has dual stage runners to increase low end torque. but thanks for that team integra link.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freshazzburu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was concerned about if the torque loss would hurt more than the high end power gain since the OEM manifold for a GSR has dual stage runners to increase low end torque. but thanks for that team integra link.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well ask yourself how often are you going to be at 1k-4k rpm? For daily driving, yes of course you'll lose some power but then if you're drag racing, after 1st gear it wouldn't matter anymore, right?

First, I think you should ask yourself what YOUR goals are. Then from there, you can determine your powerband and build your car accordingly... Basically, you'll have to find a compromise. For a low displacement motor w/o force induction (as a matter of fact, for any car), you'll have to determine where you want your power to be. Low, mid or high. Getting a skunk2 manifold will be moving it to high... (of course, you should also invest in different cams too). But eh... read the articles.

 

thanks, i appreciate ur input

 

blox's intake manifold are good too

 

I would change the ecu also

 

Either way you have no torque. The top end is really where the GSR shines, so why not help it a bit?

 

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<FONT COLOR="royalblue"> I Agree. I have run his custom chip and It's good stuff. </FONT>

 

i have the skunk2 on mine and it rips the asphalt after vtec

 

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so would the p28 chipped ecu perform better than the itr ecu? isn't the p28 the same as the p72 only without the secondary butterfly switch over? I was thinking that since I have JDM ITR cams and the skunk2 manifold is basically an ITR oem manifold, i should might as well run the same fuel map with the P73 ITR ecu, plus I've found one that was off a '97 which is OBDIIa whcih is what i have right now. so will i yield better gains with the p28 chipped? again, thanks for all your help and recomendations

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freshazzburu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so would the p28 chipped ecu perform better than the itr ecu? isn't the p28 the same as the p72 only without the secondary butterfly switch over? I was thinking that since I have JDM ITR cams and the skunk2 manifold is basically an ITR oem manifold, i should might as well run the same fuel map with the P73 ITR ecu, plus I've found one that was off a '97 which is OBDIIa whcih is what i have right now. so will i yield better gains with the p28 chipped? again, thanks for all your help and recomendations</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd love to know that as well. Plus, what throttle body you going to use?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wannaTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd love to know that as well. Plus, what throttle body you going to use?</TD></TR></TABLE>i was thinking about either boring the stock one out or getting the itr one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freshazzburu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking about either boring the stock one out or getting the itr one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont bother, get the Skunk2 if you're gonna spend any money.

 

dude, the OEM ITR one does not fit the GSR head the bolt pattern on the head is different. Even if it did fit why buy the ITR one? the skunk2 one has larger plenum anyway and guaranteed to be way cheaper than the OEM one.

If you're unsure, just save your $$$ till you make up your mind.