Well after losing my S2000 on Monday , I'm looking into other cars.
And considering a Type-R, since it seems great for what you're paying.
I wanted to know the ups and downs (if any) with this car. I've personally driven 2 Type-R's (really hard ) and I can simply say "That thing moves!"

And I was looking for a car that has the same specs as an S2 (Performance wise) and this is the only car that came to mind and an RSX Type-S is out of the question. No Prelude's either, been there done that.

Thanks in advance for the help people

I won't be driving it in the winter.

 

why are you downgrading from an S2K to an ITR?

 

Well...just to be bluntly honest (no offense to ITR drivers) but stock for stock, the ITR doesnt begin to compare in any way to the S2000 (handling or acceleration wise)...

Now onto the pro's and con's...pro's of coures you get a nice peppy n/a tuned honda B18C5, aftermarket support is very good, you have many things already done for you (suspension wise with sway bars, and of course the 5lug setup and better brakes)...limited production, nice interior with sporty suede style buckets, its basically a little pocket rocket out of the box with no mods for a decent price.

Con's would include the fact that import theives YEARN for these cars, they get stolen so much...finding them is not really easy and when people that know what they have are selling them, they arnt letting them go cheap 9 times out of 10. Alot of times you wont find them in condition that they havent been beat on a good bit, because they were marketed towards certain people, and those people most likely drove them HARD (atleast sometimes)

...honestly there isnt alot that is a true "Con" on this car as with any other performance related honda, reliable, sporty, look nice and are still considered modern (meaning they dont appear dated like some cars do after being out of the market for years)...

But again, this car doesnt compare to the S2000...2 totally different leagues, this is a higher line sport compact car, the S2000 is both an ethusiasts car but also, the definition of what a SPORTS car was always entended to be (roadster body style, 2 doors, 2 seats, rwd and fast not only in a straight line, but in the twisties)...

 

It's probably cheaper to insure a S2000.

 

^^^ Depends on your age, location and the theft rate in your area...my friend who is only 1 year younger than I (im 25) is paying nearly $100/month more for his RSX Type-S (which i imagine is comparible to the Type-R's insurance rates) than i am for me and my wife's S2000...and ours has higher coverage with lower deductible...so it just depends. Then on the other side of the fence, my wife's friend has an S2000 just like ours but suzuka blue, and is paying $90/month more than my friend with the RSX...so yeah.

Payments will surely be cheaper...lol.

 

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I don't know about that. I was looking at a 2001 S2K and the insurance quote I got was $1100.00 a year cheaper than my 1998 R, and I am in Oklahoma.

 

I think if you search you will find many answers here.

The biggest downside to the ITR is theft attempts. They are stolen at the rate of about 1 every day it seems (based on posts here on h-t).

 

If it wasn't a theft magnet, it's actually a great car. Roomy, can carry a good amount of cargo since it's a 3 door and the car is zippy. But since you have to consider buying a beater to keep the heat off a 25K USD (when it was new) Honda, you know that it's not daily driver material*.

* Depending on where you live.

 

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it is...

My 01 ITR - 3300 a yr
My 02 S2K - 1800 a yr (actually better coverage, higher liability, etc..)

 

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it is...

My 01 ITR - 3300 a yr
My 02 S2K - 1800 a yr (actually better coverage, higher liability, etc..)

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Thats weird, because my R costs about as much as my Jeep Wrangler did. As for the person saying that a Type R doesn't even compare to a S2k handling or acceleration, I am sorry I disagree.

Despite what it might say on papers, I think they are very close. Sure the S2k is slightly better in each, but to say they are not close at all is just silly.

Honestly, the only down I can see from going from a S2k to an R is theft. Other than that there really isn't any. With slight mods its just as fast or faster than a stock S2k if your looking for equilvalent speed to a stock S2k, which the thread maker said helike.

 

s2k handling&gt; type R handling??? can someone explain this to me?? because from what i understand/have heard, they are damn near equal in handling (although fwd vs rwd), but s2k has better acceleration stock.

cons:

theft
vandalism
insurance
ricers
uncomfortable
loud in cabin
cop attention
bumpy ride (some ppl hate)

pros:

reliability
speed
handling
aftermarket
FUN
lightweight
raRe
style too
FWD=better in certain weather situations with proper tire accomadations
4 people can fit in it (but you wont want ppl in the back anyway)
spacious hatch

hope this helps you. get an R and take care of it. otherwise, get a gsr.

 

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cons:
theft
vandalism
insurance
loud in cabin
cop attention
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I totally agree with this, these are Major Cons!!!

 

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That was me that said that, and i stand by it (and notice i said stock for stock, you could modify either one of them into oblivion and have totally different outcomes...stock for stock)...again, im not HATING on the ITR, i love them, and actually have about 5 close friends with varying year model integra type-r's...having driven them many times, i will say that comparing an S2000 to an ITR is like comparing apples and oranges, and thats not even going by what the paper says...acceleration wise, the S2000 is easily into the high 13's with the AP2 (which is what i own, and what i go with in comparisons) but with his, your easily looking at right around the same...13.9/14.0's all day long, on a car that was built for nearly the COMPLETE opposite of drag racing.

Handling wise...you have 2 very big pluses with the S2000...weight ratio and rwd. Those 2 things combined provide for a car that even the magazines have said feels like a MUCH more expensive exotic, yet retains the price near alot of sport compacts...then you add the beefy sways, large ground patch wtih the tires, rigidity given to it because its a roadster and you have a car that is just incredible in the handling department.

Now the ITR is no slouch...it has VERY good handling characteristics and to be quite honest, i had considered owning one for years, i like them alot...but going back to my initial post, you just cant compare a sport compact to a pure bred sports car like the S2000, i mean you can, but the ITR is always going to come up short...

I would go look for a comparison site online but i dont have time...i'll just leave with saying this, the Integra Type-R is a great car, it has ALOT of potential and could certainly be built to handle incredibly and be very fast (faster than it already is) but the S2000 is in a completely different league...and thats not talking **** or talking down to the Integra, its just being honest.

 

Thank you very much for the info people


And the thing with My S2000, well I had a bad experience with mine, I love the car nonetheless, I'll get one in the near future, but for now I wanted a change.

Which is why I was looking into an ITR. Yes it's a step down, but track wise, they're pretty close, for the price difference, an ITR is 21k tax in and an S2K is about 40k Tax In. (both good ones, condition wise)

 

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No. They're not close at all. The s2k is a far superior track car.

 

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No. They're not close at all. The s2k is a far superior track car. </TD></TR></TABLE>



s2k=1:22s at summit point main

 

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What are you talking about?

If you want an awesome quote towards the characteristics surrounding the S2000, it comes from one of the engineers that was working on the Lotus Elise 111R a few years ago before it was even released in europe...he stated that while designing their car, only a few cars were strewn about the design boards in their offices, a couple of ferrari's, of course previous model lotus's, renault and opel...and the Honda S2000.

They didnt say anything else but that...but given the (to put it bluntly) PERFECTION found in the new Lotus Elise, to have the Honda S2000, or Honda PERIOD mentioned by the engineers as a car used to gain ideas to put towards their own car, in the company with ferrari, to me that just speaks worlds about the car...and honda itself, which also goes towards the Type-R cars in their lineup...because its obvious honda's performance and motorsports heritage gets props from even the highest line european car manufacturers...

 

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Canadian Monopoly money.

 

i drove an s2k for the first time yesterday and i was impressed, all it had under the hood was a comptech ice box other than that is was stock..... the power felt about the same as my car with i/h/e/ but the handling was awesome for stock and the rwd is definatly fun as hell, they are r really tiny inside, but at least u fell like ur in a race car...
compairing apples and apples i wouldent go trade my car for one anytime soon but i would like to own one down the road. Both cars r amazing!!

 

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your butt dynos need to be recalibrated or something bc the S2K is faster than an ITR even with I/H/E

 

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Stock S2000 vs ITR with I/H/E ??? really... I would never think that.

 

an s2k can do high 13s stock...there is no way an ITR with i/H/E can do that
and if anybody disagrees, please post time sheets

i have sat in kyle's S2K more than enough times recently to reaffirm that

 

But I'm usually the one who ends up with the freak motors.

 

The awesome thing is...we're in here talking about drag racing comparisons on two cars that Honda engineers would probobly slap us for talking about in regards to drag racing. lol

 

not just drag racing...more of a speed comparision

given the same cars in a professional driver's hands and all else be equal, the S2K would destroy the ITR on a road course and drag strip

however, all the misconceptions are probably due to the fact the we are not professional drivers and the ITR is probably easier of the 2 to drive fast in the hands of a novice