Hey guys i just wanted to know if i would have to get the beaks kit inorder to get my itr sway bar installed? or would i just need to remove my LS bracket mounts and then directly mount the sway bar onto the chassis? thanks.

 

you need the kit or you'll **** up your chassis

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dtrtw &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys i just wanted to know if i would have to get the beaks kit inorder to get my itr sway bar installed? or would i just need to remove my LS bracket mounts and then directly mount the sway bar onto the chassis? thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless you want subframe tearout, I'd highly suggest you put on a mounting kit.

 

i hear even with the beaks kit people still have tearouts is this true? can i get something to avoid this from happening? thanks

 

Get the BSQ kit. I think there's an article on team-integra.net that talks about Sway bars and has the link for them. Aparently they don't have the problems the Beaks kit does. I'll be getting a BSQ when I get a JDM sway bar.

 

ITS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THEN SORRY....BUT I've only seen Civic subframes tear. I've seen three GSRs and an LS with ITR 22 & 23 mm swaybars and they had been running it for awhile with no problems.

Im not telling you to go ahead and run a ITR bar without reinforcing but research whether or not people that are saying " You'll rip your subframe out" aren't talking about Civics.

http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/ITRon5G.html

 

I am really considering doing a JDM ITR 23mm sway for my teg. For those that have it, how much and what type of handling difference does it make? It is definitely worth the price, I just want to know what to expect handling-wise.

 

handling wise you are going to have a major oversteering problem from what I heard. Its best for a track car...the OEM ITR bar is better for daily driving cuz it has a more neutral feel

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by njandrewg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">handling wise you are going to have a major oversteering problem from what I heard. Its best for a track car...the OEM ITR bar is better for daily driving cuz it has a more neutral feel </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude, wtf are you talking about? I AM talking about the OEM HONDA JDM ITR 23 mm rear-sway bar. That is 1mm thicker than the 22mm USDM ITR sway. Where did you get the major oversteering problem from? WTF? Are you smoking crack? A beefier rear sway bar will add more rigidity to the rear end of the car making it more prone to pushing itself out a little more but nothing 'major' like a rwd car might experience. Anyone who actually knows what they are talking about want to chime in?

 

If you want more *** action...use a rear 22 mm ITR bar and a front 22 mm 94-96 Teg (LS-GSR) and run your tires at 26 psi front and 36 rear. This will make for a good ride and lots of booty movement.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotsuma23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, wtf are you talking about? I AM talking about the OEM HONDA JDM ITR 23 mm rear-sway bar. That is 1mm thicker than the 22mm USDM ITR sway. Where did you get the major oversteering problem from? WTF? Are you smoking crack? A beefier rear sway bar will add more rigidity to the rear end of the car making it more prone to pushing itself out a little more but nothing 'major' like a rwd car might experience. Anyone who actually knows what they are talking about want to chime in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm talking about the OEM USDM ITR rear sway bar 22mm. With it you get a more neutral handling. From a thread earlier about this topic...the 23mm will cause ur car to be a lot more oversteer happy than with a 22mm.

 

22mm to a 23mm will not affect handling that much...and if you feel it, it won't be a very noticable difference at all.

Now, stop fighting.

 

remember the stiffer the sway bar the easier it will be for the *** to come around

 

the calcualtor to get stiffness difference:

% stiffness compared to stock = (new diameter/stock diameter)^4

(22/12.9)^4 = 8.46 or 7.46 times stiffer than stock

JDM Type R would be
(23/12.9)^4= 10.11 pr 9.11 times stiffer than stock

so you are getting 165% more stiffness with the JDM bar over a Type R one on a LS. I'd say its a pretty large difference

 

geeZus where would i find the BSQ kit for the rear sway bar? thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99LStegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">remember the stiffer the sway bar the easier it will be for the *** to come around</TD></TR></TABLE>


Whoa, really? JK..thats kind of the point of this thread...they're trying to figure out if installation of a reinforcement kit is necessary on an Integra so they can have there booty shake a little more.

 

http://www.geocities.com/bretq/mounting_kit.html

for the bsq kit

 

oh didn't realize that he wuz actually wanting it to come around... btw since this thread is getting alot of attention, could someone please tell me how to post pics on here????

 

click this


and insert the link to your image online between the ]and[

 

Were do you get your 12.9 figure? Where does that come from? Yes, if you divide the diameter of the bar by that figure and find the square root thats what you'd get but where do you get that figure.....hmmmm?

 

And I was comparing the difference between the 22 mm bar and the 23mm bar.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C-speed Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And I was comparing the difference between the 22 mm bar and the 23mm bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As was I. This fucktard is trying to tell me that 1mm of additional thickness will cause a earth-shattering difference over the 22mm bar. Dude you are an idiot. Stop being a ricer and believing everything ever ricer tells you. 1mm of additional thickness WILL NOT cause MAJOR OVERSTEER when compared to the 22mm.

 

I just want to know where he got his figures from....

 

12.9 is the size of a rear sway bar on LS/GS/RS coupes

and to the guys saying extra 1mm won't do much ....do you have a JDM Type R sway on ur car? or drove one?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotsuma23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As was I. This fucktard is trying to tell me that 1mm of additional thickness will cause a earth-shattering difference over the 22mm bar. Dude you are an idiot. Stop being a ricer and believing everything ever ricer tells you. 1mm of additional thickness WILL NOT cause MAJOR OVERSTEER when compared to the 22mm. </TD></TR></TABLE>
and where does your knowlegde come from oh mighty l33t tuner. Fast and furious? Super Street? Import Tuner? Pimp my ride?