ok well im lookin to swap what do u think would be best and y thanks guys...this is going into a 96 integra

 

the real question is how deep are your pockets?

 

between those two, i say go with the itr. if it were the rsx-s vs itr, it might have been another story.

 

my pockets are deep just letting u all know money is no object in this vote

 

Its been proven time and time again.. No motor compares to the B18C5 in the honda world.. True the k20 is a 2.0 allowing alittle bit bigger displacement but the ITR has too many things to list that over power a .2 bigger liter.. The head it self on a ITR is ported and polished which follows COMPLETELY Different from any honda motor out period that it self puts this motor above all the others.. And this I-VTEC **** is garbage.. its "noT" Vtec like it should be.. Why spend 5500+ on a k20 when u can do just as much if not more with a 4500 ITR motor.. on top of that the k series ecus for 05+'s can't be programmed by just anybody anymore honda started to lock down their ecus u gotta send **** off to hondata now which sucks major *** cause that crap's costing 700+ Dollars just to get a decent tuning.. stick with a b series.

 

thanks for the info man im def. lookin in to buy in itr (not b18c5 usdm) now more so does anyone have anything else to ad

 

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lol
+1 hype-R nut-swinger

 

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lol, but seriously, this is a subjective question. what are your plans for your car? the k20a3 has great boost potentia.l

 

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lol, either B18C1/5 or an K20A/2 , dont waste your time working with anything elese unless you get the A3 for cheap cheap cash,

 

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wow, if money is no object, why not get both

 

No option for a K20A?

 

K20A &gt; K20A2 &gt; B18C5 &gt; K20A3

 

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How it should be

 

I say go with the itr motor.

 

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now thats how it should be. i mashed on my friends si with my ls. i had an intake and spark plugs and ran on 91 octane SUPER RACING GASOLINE. jk yeah the k20a3.... isnt that the one with the fake i vtec because its only one the intake cam? i dont realy know about k series but i would like to know more from you more experienced guys. and wont your k20 hit the floor in a teg? or would it be ok im wondering about that crap my self...

 

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Ahh ok so you're one of those ricer guys that loves the feeling of "hitting m4d vTeC Yo." No doubt the C5 is a very potent motor, but the K-series is the future. You might want to read up and actually learn about the i-Vtec system before making untrue claims. I don't even know that much about, but I know the basics. The reason it doesn't have a vtec switch over is because it senses when to turn it on by throttle position. So now instead of you having to wait until 5000 rpm or whatever, it'll switch over based on the way you are driving.

Now in terms of this comparasion, yes take the ITR motor. You will be very disappointed with the k20a3. As already mentioned it only has i-vtec on the camshaft. The motor is a dog. You would be better off saving your money and throwing in a b18b rather than the k20a3 because it's faster.

 

well lets see, c5= 195hp, si k20= 160hp... u do the math. if money is not a issue then why don't u hit up the k20a itr motor that has 220hp?

 

thats the route i would go also, the si's dont have the traditonal rocker assembly but they have vvt, a b18c5 has the rocker assembly but it dosent have variable valve timing, so why not get the best of both worlds and get a dc5 type r motor, the k20's are also very responsive to mods

 

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alright if the b18c5 doesn't have vvt why would it be called Vtec?????????? the only difference between the I-Vtec and the b-series Vtec is I-vtec is intellegence. it starts the vvt at a more gradual engagement. where as with the Vtec it kicks in at a set point of usually 5k.....

 

A C5 has vtec because it has variable valve-train control meaning it as a 3 lobe 3 rocker assembly. but it dose not have variable valve timing which means the cam gears do not automatically advance and retard according to the rpm the motor is running at to make the most efficency in power. a DC5 type R has both so dose the RSX type s. all the "i" signifys is that it has variable valve timing.

 

why don't you stop posting about this **** and just do it

 

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Where did the d15 fall in this?

 

i'm not one of those guys thats all crazy into vtec. i'm stating facts.. and no k series is not the future..

 

ur one ignorant kid to think that then. plus maybe u didnt notice, they stopped making the b-series engine. so what are you goign to do as the supply slowly runs out because only k-series are being made. Plus I think honda engineers know a little bit more than you do otherwise if the k-series wasn't so much better, they would have stuck with the b series motors.