dry carbon hood for jdm itr?
No that is the correct term. It refers to CF that isnt all showy and blinging. Like on F1 cars, most of the CF has the dry, sometimes even slightly textured look (as well as having many more layers of CF and even aluminum honeycomb sandwich in the moncoque.
The clearcoat gel is just something thats added for show effect, and most of the CF hoods out there are just one layer of CF with fiberglass and a lot of freaking clear coat.
I have seen some dry CF hoods, but they were on the older Evo 5s and 6s, everyone usually wants the lame show clear.
The clearcoat gel is just something thats added for show effect, and most of the CF hoods out there are just one layer of CF with fiberglass and a lot of freaking clear coat.
I have seen some dry CF hoods, but they were on the older Evo 5s and 6s, everyone usually wants the lame show clear.
I believe the Spoon CF hood is actually real dry carbon with a clearcoat on top of it for extra protection.
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Dry carbon fiber is carbon fiber that is pre-impregnated with resin at the manufacturer. The resin is carefully metered into the material and then it is frozen to stop the resin from curing intil it hits the oven or autoclave. It really doesn't have much to do with the look of the finished part. The term "dry" refers to the low resin content of the part. Parts can be made lighter using prepreg. You can make a wet layup look like dry carbon very easily and you can make a prepreg part look just as glossy as your typical cf hood. The finished product will have the exact same texture as the mold surface. All it would require is laying up on a dull surface to get a dry look.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kidkombo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the clearcoat on my spoon duckbill wore out fast....it already started to oxidize, so i got rid of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That probably wasn't a clear coated part. It was most likely the gel coat that was wearing away or the UV radiation started to degrade the resin. They usually paint the entire female mold with a heavy coat of polyester resin prior to laying up the part. This is supposed to make the part look like it has been clear coat painted without actually having to paint it. Painting is pretty expensive so most sport compact parts aren't clear coated.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmitrhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do they make one?...i havent been able to locate anything..anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't seen any for the Integra, I think this would be a custom deal. They may exist but not from any of the usual suspects. That would probably be a $1000 hood.
Dry carbon fiber is carbon fiber that is pre-impregnated with resin at the manufacturer. The resin is carefully metered into the material and then it is frozen to stop the resin from curing intil it hits the oven or autoclave. It really doesn't have much to do with the look of the finished part. The term "dry" refers to the low resin content of the part. Parts can be made lighter using prepreg. You can make a wet layup look like dry carbon very easily and you can make a prepreg part look just as glossy as your typical cf hood. The finished product will have the exact same texture as the mold surface. All it would require is laying up on a dull surface to get a dry look.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kidkombo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the clearcoat on my spoon duckbill wore out fast....it already started to oxidize, so i got rid of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That probably wasn't a clear coated part. It was most likely the gel coat that was wearing away or the UV radiation started to degrade the resin. They usually paint the entire female mold with a heavy coat of polyester resin prior to laying up the part. This is supposed to make the part look like it has been clear coat painted without actually having to paint it. Painting is pretty expensive so most sport compact parts aren't clear coated.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmitrhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do they make one?...i havent been able to locate anything..anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't seen any for the Integra, I think this would be a custom deal. They may exist but not from any of the usual suspects. That would probably be a $1000 hood.
How about a dry Carbon Fiber/Boron Fiber hood? Super light weight and even stronger.
I agree with CRX12. dry carbon fiber is merely a way to express and tell the differences in the processes of making a carbon fiber piece. The pieces are much more uniform because there will not be any resin that puddles up more in one area than in another. Since the resin is already prepregnated into the carbon fiber you are garanteed that the tolerences to stress will be pretty uniform across the whole piece.
Though, the first part of this thread discusses the difference between a gloss finish (resin has been sanded and buffed) and a resin that has been sanded. Making surfboards here on North Shore, the manufacturing process of laying the glass and resin is pretty much the same concept of making a hood. I've made boards out of fiber glass, carbon fiber, kevlar, carbon/kevlar.... a customer will order a board either 'glossed' or 'unglossed'. A glossed board can add up to 3 lbs onto the total weight. Regardless, once the resin has hardened, it has to be sanded to get out the orange peel effect that took place while it was curing.
Back to the topic on hand let's not get 'dry carbon fiber' mixed up with 'sanded finish' and 'gloss' finish' (wet look) because these are three totally different subjects entirely.
Hope this helped
I agree with CRX12. dry carbon fiber is merely a way to express and tell the differences in the processes of making a carbon fiber piece. The pieces are much more uniform because there will not be any resin that puddles up more in one area than in another. Since the resin is already prepregnated into the carbon fiber you are garanteed that the tolerences to stress will be pretty uniform across the whole piece.
Though, the first part of this thread discusses the difference between a gloss finish (resin has been sanded and buffed) and a resin that has been sanded. Making surfboards here on North Shore, the manufacturing process of laying the glass and resin is pretty much the same concept of making a hood. I've made boards out of fiber glass, carbon fiber, kevlar, carbon/kevlar.... a customer will order a board either 'glossed' or 'unglossed'. A glossed board can add up to 3 lbs onto the total weight. Regardless, once the resin has hardened, it has to be sanded to get out the orange peel effect that took place while it was curing.
Back to the topic on hand let's not get 'dry carbon fiber' mixed up with 'sanded finish' and 'gloss' finish' (wet look) because these are three totally different subjects entirely.
Hope this helped
I've often thought about using Boron fiber just to see how light it would be. I think that stuff is like $200.00 per lb. or something silly like that.
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