what plug wires everyone run nowadays?
after running ngk's i switched to magnecor kv-85's and cant tell a difference....what wires have you guys tried and found to be good....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after running ngk's i switched to magnecor kv-85's and cant tell a difference....what wires have you guys tried and found to be good....</TD></TR></TABLE>
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the kv85's pop off also
good wire, use some zipties around the distributor plugs to hold them in.
Work well i guess, wires are wires though
as long as you stick with OEM, NGK, MSD, Magnacor, you are cool
good wire, use some zipties around the distributor plugs to hold them in.
Work well i guess, wires are wires though
as long as you stick with OEM, NGK, MSD, Magnacor, you are cool
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have also had problems with the MSD wires popping off the distributer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by no2psi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use oem. had a set of msd but the always popped off the distributor. Those things are total
crap!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had this same problem too, but use a little common sense and it is an easy fix.
Well pull the wire plug from the distributor, and look at the contact. "Well if it is poppin out, what could fix this?" Grab a pair spreaders or even use a screwdriver and widen the contact piece, reinstall. Repeat to the next 3. Promise it will never pop off again.
MSD are really not that bad of wires. They have the least resistance per foot of any wire on the market. And if you know anything about current flow, then you would want the least resistant wire so it will carry a high amperage of current which would make your spark stronger.
E=Voltage
I=Current
R=Resistance
P=Power
E= I x R
I= E/R
R= E/I
P= E x I
Lets say we have 100 Volts(E), and we test 3 different wires. One wire has 2K Ohms resistance, the other 1K ohms, and the last 500 ohms. Lets find out the current and power we get which each wire.
Current
E/R = I
1) 100V / 2K Ohms = 50mA
2) 100V / 1K Ohm = 100mA
3) 100V / 500 Ohms = 200mA
Look at the difference in current different resistances makes.
Power
E x I = P
1) 100V x 50mA = 5W(watts)
2) 100V x 100mA = 10W
3) 100V x 200mA = 20W
As you can see less resitance makes more power. Now the Voltage that the distibutor puts out Im sure is more than 100 VDC and given that 1 HP = 746W, less resistance wires can cause an increase in HP!
School dismissed
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by no2psi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use oem. had a set of msd but the always popped off the distributor. Those things are total
crap!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had this same problem too, but use a little common sense and it is an easy fix.
Well pull the wire plug from the distributor, and look at the contact. "Well if it is poppin out, what could fix this?" Grab a pair spreaders or even use a screwdriver and widen the contact piece, reinstall. Repeat to the next 3. Promise it will never pop off again.
MSD are really not that bad of wires. They have the least resistance per foot of any wire on the market. And if you know anything about current flow, then you would want the least resistant wire so it will carry a high amperage of current which would make your spark stronger.
E=Voltage
I=Current
R=Resistance
P=Power
E= I x R
I= E/R
R= E/I
P= E x I
Lets say we have 100 Volts(E), and we test 3 different wires. One wire has 2K Ohms resistance, the other 1K ohms, and the last 500 ohms. Lets find out the current and power we get which each wire.
Current
E/R = I
1) 100V / 2K Ohms = 50mA
2) 100V / 1K Ohm = 100mA
3) 100V / 500 Ohms = 200mA
Look at the difference in current different resistances makes.
Power
E x I = P
1) 100V x 50mA = 5W(watts)
2) 100V x 100mA = 10W
3) 100V x 200mA = 20W
As you can see less resitance makes more power. Now the Voltage that the distibutor puts out Im sure is more than 100 VDC and given that 1 HP = 746W, less resistance wires can cause an increase in HP!
School dismissed
my msd systems puts out about 52,000 volts with the coil modded....my magnecor wires about about 2k ohms of resistance from connector to connector and less for the shorter wires in the set...guess i should go measure my ngk's and oem's
unless your stock wires arent working properly, you arent going to see any advantages to upgrading to something aftermarket. waste of money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my msd systems puts out about 52,000 volts with the coil modded....my magnecor wires about about 2k ohms of resistance from connector to connector and less for the shorter wires in the set...guess i should go measure my ngk's and oem's</TD></TR></TABLE>
It would be a good test! let me know
Nology wires use a capacitor to build a charge and discharge a greater spark. This is an excellant concept, but way overpriced considering the capictors cost less than a dollar each. Also if given more thorough testing and utilizing better capacitors, Nology wires would be probably the best on the market!
In the mean time here is a review and comparison of OEM and Aftermarket wires dyno tested against each other!
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/4/4_wires.shtml
It would be a good test! let me know
Nology wires use a capacitor to build a charge and discharge a greater spark. This is an excellant concept, but way overpriced considering the capictors cost less than a dollar each. Also if given more thorough testing and utilizing better capacitors, Nology wires would be probably the best on the market!
In the mean time here is a review and comparison of OEM and Aftermarket wires dyno tested against each other!
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/4/4_wires.shtml
the nology wires suck....that capacitor takes time to charge before enough energy is stored to jump the gap...the time the cap takes to charge up causes a delay...this delay is the same as retarding your ignition....stupid concept design
hybrid_vtec good find on that article...the msd wires came out on top on the dyno testing
hybrid_vtec good find on that article...the msd wires came out on top on the dyno testing
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2k.civic.si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the nology wires suck....that capacitor takes time to charge before enough energy is stored to jump the gap...the time the cap takes to charge up causes a delay...this delay is the same as retarding your ignition....stupid concept design
hybrid_vtec good find on that article...the msd wires came out on top on the dyno testing</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said the Nology wires is a good concept but needs to utilize different/better capacitors.
I found that article monthes ago. The website has some good info on it, check it out!
hybrid_vtec good find on that article...the msd wires came out on top on the dyno testing</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said the Nology wires is a good concept but needs to utilize different/better capacitors.
I found that article monthes ago. The website has some good info on it, check it out!



