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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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what are the perf possibilities out of a d16y8??

is 300 whp posssible being turbo'd? (fully build bottom and maybe mild pnp of the head with s2 or similar manilfold, large tb, uberdata, etc....)

I was looking for a b swap, but the prices on these y8s are supa low!!

What is the max rev range for the y8 (that will still make power of course....)

Any info or links to info would be appreciated!!




EDIT!!! PLEASE LOCK, I will post this in the turbo forum.....
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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yes. and now search

i.e. turbo y8, turbo d16, etc
been covered 432534636 times
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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TURBO THAT BITCH
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by awdriscol4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is the max rev range for the y8 (that will still make power of course....)</TD></TR></TABLE>

between 4000 and 7200 rpm's

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eK9aT10pSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes. and now search

i.e. turbo y8, turbo d16, etc
been covered 432534636 times</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILLICON3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TURBO THAT BITCH</TD></TR></TABLE>

boost is better
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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You could go supercharger if your looking for good driveability. No laggy lag till 4000rpm like a turbo.

If your going for all out power, go turbo. It takes no power away to turn it.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could go supercharger if your looking for good driveability. No laggy lag till 4000rpm like a turbo.

If your going for all out power, go turbo. It takes no power away to turn it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is not true depending on the turbo set up it can kick in A LOT earlyer than 4000 rpms
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow_CvC99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is not true depending on the turbo set up it can kick in A LOT earlyer than 4000 rpms</TD></TR></TABLE>

ALOT ? As in instant off the line like a SC? No.

Im just sayin, SC's are better for driveability. Just ask the creators of the Ford GT, Pontiac Bonneville SC, etc. There are reasons that people use SCers despite the fact that its not the most popular mod on this forum. There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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You will get the most power turbocharging it
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could go supercharger if your looking for good driveability. No laggy lag till 4000rpm like a turbo.

If your going for all out power, go turbo. It takes no power away to turn it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ALOT ? As in instant off the line like a SC? No.

Im just sayin, SC's are better for driveability. Just ask the creators of the Ford GT, Pontiac Bonneville SC, etc. There are reasons that people use SCers despite the fact that its not the most popular mod on this forum. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well a supercharger is way more expensive than a turbo setup, try about double the price, and you can make more power with a turbo. Plusthe reason maufacturers did a supercharger rather than a turbo is b/c idiots like to just shut off their car after some hard drivinf, you can do this with a supercharger, but a turbocharger, it is a good idea to let it idle a min. or two before shutting it off, but then again, thats what they make turbo timers for
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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you could theortically rev a y8 to 9-10k if you had everything to support that with a crazy cam to make power that high. But go turbo, with a fully built bottom end i.e. rods, pistons, sleeves, crank you could make 500whp on race gas. Turbo's are much more fun than superchargers.

and to flood, you say turboes dont kick in till 4000 rpm? mine hits full boost at 2400rpm...
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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hey how about u search u son of a bitch. this has been covered 10953958 times
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you could theortically rev a y8 to 9-10k if you had everything to support that with a crazy cam to make power that high. But go turbo, with a fully built bottom end i.e. rods, pistons, sleeves, crank you could make 500whp on race gas. Turbo's are much more fun than superchargers.

and to flood, you say turboes dont kick in till 4000 rpm? mine hits full boost at 2400rpm...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was thinking he was meaning vtec.....it shouldnt take a turbo 4000 rpm to reach full boost unless its a big *** turbo
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and to flood, you say turboes dont kick in till 4000 rpm? mine hits full boost at 2400rpm...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well my point being that w/ a supercharger you would make more power off the line. Thanks for proving that.

My friends 98 civic ex w/turbo doesn't hit full boost till after 3500rpm. Not to mention all the stuff that goes along with a turbo. Tubing, oil lines, heat, BOV, ECU upgrade (can be cheap Uber but still), wastegate, tuning.

A supercharger is bolt on and no ECU upgrades are needed for a base kit. Simple. Plus if you drive in town alot you would notice the power more without having to rev it as much. Driveablity It has a nifty bypass valve too, so you don't use the SC all the time. Reliablity

I wouldn't argue that a turbo setup couldn't be cheaper and obviously produce more power or be reliable.

If you have to be the fastest ****** on the road a SC won't satisfy you. But if your looking for more power and want to retain low RPM driveabilty / torque a SC might fit your needs.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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The biggest problem with revving a Y8 over 7k is the SUCKY oil pump.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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I have a D16Y8 with an Edelbrock Turbo kit. They released a 'track' kit that is supposed to put out around 280 at the wheels. I'd say do a turbo over a swap. It is a lot of fun to drive and I am at full boost by 2500-3000 RPM. I would highly recomend the Edelbrock turbo for the D16Y8. I searched for 2 years and finally found one for about $2500, and installed it myself. See my link for pictures if youre interested. And I'd be happy to try and answer any of your questions about my setup/your setup!
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A supercharger is bolt on and no ECU upgrades are needed for a base kit. Simple. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Even with low boost fuel mangement is a good idea. You could get away with very low boost on a turbo too......... but still not a good idea on any FI engine.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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anything is possible when you turbo chage any application.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im just sayin, SC's are better for driveability. Just ask the creators of the Ford GT, Pontiac Bonneville SC, etc. There are reasons that people use SCers despite the fact that its not the most popular mod on this forum. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok i had a SC car and i didnt hit full 15psi (stock car) till i was at redline...A turbo civic with a good kit can keep up or stay rite next to a sc civic....a guy i new had a turbo 240sx and was hittin full boost at 1000rpm's
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Ok, turbos are the only way to go.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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no, turbos arent the only way to go, we are not trying to down a supercharger in anyway, and I will say that a supercharger is more reliable than a turbo, but you dont get the cool sound of the blowoff vlave with a supercharger...lol
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Well that and I re-read his post and for 300hp and a built bottom end, yes turbo.

plus you can scare old folks with the BOV
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plus you can scare old folks with the BOV</TD></TR></TABLE>

and when the cops hear it, they will ask you to pop the hood.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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only in cali lol
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