Ok, ill give you guys a little info into why i am asking this question. Theres this local guy out here in oklahoma, and hes a 53 year old rice hater, he thinks that ALL hondas are slow pieces of crap, so he told me that he's building a old "Luv" truck with a 3.8 liter v6 to come out one night and smoke me , well, the 3.8 isn't going to be built, but he is going to spray, now i know i will get beat by him on bottle, but he has agreed to race me off of it too.

Now he will only go from a stop, thus i need to figure out what i want to run tires wise to get off the line. For this race i will have a Ls/vtec with wiseco/eagles, 11.5:1 compression, rlz P&P stage 2 head with bc4's and other minor bolt-on's. i am thinking somewhere in the 190-200 range tuned. So i already heav a set of 14x6" miata wheels to put some sticky tires on. So my options look like BFG DR's or the nitto 555-r's. What would you guys choose? Help me out to win one for the imports!

TIA....chris

P.s., if this thread dosent fit here fell free to move. Thx.

 

Too bad you weren't FI so you could actually teach him a lesson. What kind of strip are you talking about, drag strip or on the street. What kind of power are you currently making.

 

It will be the street, as stated above, i plan on putting down around 190-200 whp out of a Ls/Vtec.

 

my advice, don't race him.
The guy is 53, are you just racing him to prove a point. don't entertain him.

also, you have a b16, torqueless motor. even with your mild compression and headwork, the v6 will take you.

 

Reading ownz Joo!!! I am swapping a LS/VTEC this month, thats what i will be racing him with!

 

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haha mah bad.
my advice still stands.

 

jokerluv here on HT runs close to 7's in his luv with nitrious. this is in the 1/8mile, but unless you are running 10's I wouldnt race him.

 

I am not condoning street racing but, Get some of the M/T 20x8 slicks. Launch high and get the jump on him. He will have traction issues in the LUV so, take advantage of that. I think on slicks you have chance of beating him even if he is on the bottle.

Phil

 

wow i know everyone said don't run him, but if you have too i would def go with the slicks. you ll def gain an advantage over the drag radials out the hole.

You never specified if the race was gonna be on the street or track. if its on a track you'll def take at least 2-3 tenths off your times compared to the drag radial. with a street tire you ll most likely pull a 2.0-2-2 sixty foot time compared to a 1.7-1.8 on drags. rev her out to 8 grand with the slicks and she ll hook. just hang on for torque steer though.

 

is the just an NA 3.8? it isn't the GN motor is it, then your screwed. But an NA 3.8 will probably have trouble making 200whp. Anyway tell us more about his motor.

 

better watch out for them pesky gn motors....... ive lost to a few of em.

 

Just get a turbo and call it a day.

 

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Its a 3.8 liter, and its not a gn motor, its gonna be n/a. I don't know if he was trying to BS me, but he said it should put down 200whp. If it does what do you think it will run? I really don't know what the hell a luv truck is, aren't they made using some japanese parts? Oh and the race will be on the street, on a closed course!

 

I think its a "light utility vehicle" , i guess an s10 or sonoma. Maybe its something older.

 

even smaller than an old s10 these trucks ran a isuzu 4 or something and are crap. but a simple swap to even a small six and you can get be in trouble. My dad had one a while ago and we did the swap to a s10 v6 that made a beast out of it. sounds like the old guy is looking to make a fool out of you. I wouldn't race him unless I had something up my sleeve and It sounds like you aren't ready. do the swap done slicks get a few passes in at the track dial it in to where you can get the launch down. it's hard to run a new motor.

 

man with an ls vtec and around 190-200whp in an eg chassis(assumption because of avatar) on slicks with a good driver it will be running 12s in a quarter mile id say give him a go

 

A Chevy Luv truck is an Isuzu that Chevy re-badged. Tell him you'll only race him if he gets an American vehicle.

 

I don't know about 12's but that would be a nice surprise! Im guessing with 200whp it should run pretty good.

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thats awesome, i posted that to show him, well see what he says.

 

So does any1 use Nitto 555R's?

 

I used to use nittos but i got a lot of wheel hop.That was with traction bars and energy suspension motor mount kit.They didnt have enough sidewall flex.

 

So it looks like the bfg's are a good choice, how many mile can you get out of these whlie street driving?

 

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Haha, I got barely 4k outa mine.

 

I would race him in a heart beat, but i have a bad case of "cut of your nose to spite your face" In all seriousness i would at least show up on BFGs if not slicks. And I defenatly would show up with a bottle hidden in the car. Shut the ****** up. Spray him like theres no tomarrow. If he says anything tell him "I tuned my Vtec, it hits like a bitch now". Ive used that line countless times and it always works.

If you need it a can give you directions on how to build a dry nitrous kit that fits in a backpack, installs in minutes and has no permanent mods.

 

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My Ntto 555r drag radials work great. No wheel hop here and I'm not even using tracion bars, I just have jimfab motor mounts.

 

Nitto 555s are supposed to be great on the street. Did they stop making the 215/50/15?