I searched and came up with very little info. One guy said he had an h23 in his tegi but didnt give any details. So I'm guessing it is has been done. Just curious if anyone knows if it would be much harder than a bseries swap. If not the h23 swap with h22 head may be an option. anybody have any input?

 

why not just do a strait H22??

 

I have never heard of this being done. I do know that an H22 in a teg can be a difficult swap, especially into a DA. Not real sure why you want to try this, when there are so many better B-series options that are very simple swaps. If you try it, post pics and let us know how it goes

 

yea im not sure. somebody told me that it might put out more power cuz its 2.3L and then the vtec, but actually now that i think about it that doesnt really sound right. Besides that engine is pretty heavy.

 

first off why would you want to put an H23 in your car....Isn't an H23 non Vtec. plus for the amount of money( prob close to 6,000) you could spent it much better in other places. i thought about putting on in my car. yes it would be something alittle more different but my pocket arent deep to do the swap....plus i would rather save the money for a K20 swap....now that **** is hot

 

they're vtec, but very heavy.. if i were you id go b-series you'll have to tweak with the front supension and motor mounts for an h-series

 

h23's are NOT vtec. there's one in my friend's s. the sh has vtec, but it's an h22.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fujii13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h23's are NOT vtec. there's one in my friend's s. the sh has vtec, but it's an h22.</TD></TR></TABLE>

h22 = 2.2 vtec h23 = 2.3 non vtec

 

my bad i've never been a fan of h-series so i dont know much about them, but anyways they're to heavy for a teg i'd go with gizzer or b20 vtec somthing more productive, but thats just me

 

H22 = esier and more worth the time (VTEC)

 

if you're goin to spend about 6g why not save, just spend it on a k20...you prob get better result out of a k20 then an h22

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98lsskunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but anyways they're to heavy for a teg </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think dissbanding this myth is harder than getting a Oprah away from a buffet.

Does anyone have official weight figures? In a civic ? I would say the diff would be greater ... in a teg ? MAYBE 50lbs. Considering you lose all AC components for this swap and PS (most of the time)? All works the same in the wash.

My 02 cents? Doing an H23 in a Teggy would be a total waste of money. Do the H22 if your going H.

If you have the coin, go K like mentioned here ^^^^

 

search n00bs!

h22=vtec
h23=non vtec

I couldnt answer the reason to go h23 vs h22 because they both have the same torque; one just has more displacement and hp then the other (USDM).

hseries in a 94+ teg is just as easy as a bseries swap.

hseries in 90-93 teg is nearly impossible but is do'able, but requires alot of custom fabbin. (Pointless imo)

But with technology used today... K series is the way to go. Why? Figure you get the best H series motor legit, thatll cost you 4000+ shipping (h22a Accord Euro R). The k20 is only 1k more and has more potential then the old obd2 stuff.

Just some food for thought!

HTH!

 

If you want to do it an H swap in your teg, then go for it. its your car..

and it has been done before, Other wise I wouldnt be doing it.. I have a H23 gettin rebuilt this weekend, on my 95 4dr with a t3/t4 turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jDMJeRk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">search n00bs!
hseries in a 94+ teg is just as easy as a bseries swap.
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ummmmmmm no ... no it isn't

 

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ummmmmmm no ... no it isn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
if it was easy to put one in 1 in an eg and 2 in eks, im pretty sure its just as easy to do it in an integra... its just a mount kit, its not hard at all!

If its so hard then you mind as well go with the kseries idea then. Thats supposed to be hard too!

 

JDMJerk is right. I have done two h22 swaps into civcs and they weren't all that hard. And I do know that h22's pull very hard in hatches with just i/h/e.

As long as you get the right mounts,axles and shift linkage, its the same as most motor swaps.

 

everyone that said that the h22 is to heavy, or that its a very heavy motor, leave the thread, and as i read in a previous thread i would like you to punch yourself in the ***** many times for spreading false info.

I'm going to be a dick head here because for one I scaled my car about a month ago and found it to weigh 2452lbs with about a 70/30 weight distribution. And for 2, I'm so sick of hearing the weight arguement about the h22 from people that have never even seen an h22 swapped car. Well guess what, i drive one, and i'm hear to tell you that the rumors are way way way over exaderated

now before you start point figures at my numbers lets think about this. Sense my car is turbo'd i've added alot more weight to the front end than just the stock h22 would, so this is defenatly going to throw the weight ratio off. So lets see we've got.

(the front end, added weight)
the turbo, cast iron manifold, wastgate, intercooler, piping, power steering and i've also got a copper 3-core radiator which is slightly heavier than stock.

(the ***, taken away weight)
Now also take into consideration that i have no spare tire or jack, no rear bumper reinforcement, no back seats, no exhaust. hhmmm that 70/30 ratio is starting to sound like it could be equaled out doesn't it

I'll find the paper i wrote the exact weights at each corner down on, and put it up for you guys just to finally kill the in the car weight rumors.

and one last vent, you obviously didn;t search hard enough cause i think i've got about 6-7 threads about my car on here. see my sig for the main one


Modified by b16hybridsol at 1:29 AM 3/3/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastacura99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea im not sure. somebody told me that it might put out more power cuz its 2.3L and then the vtec, but actually now that i think about it that doesnt really sound right. Besides that engine is pretty heavy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bullshit wheres your proof?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SLOWlsTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off why would you want to put an H23 in your car....Isn't an H23 non Vtec. plus for the amount of money( prob close to 6,000) you could spent it much better in other places. i thought about putting on in my car. yes it would be something alittle more different but my pocket arent deep to do the swap....plus i would rather save the money for a K20 swap....now that **** is hot </TD></TR></TABLE>

bullshit maybe if you buy from the most expensive importer. I got my whole setup including all the turbo stuff (except the aem) for under 6k prly closer to 5k and thats including the shipping from cali to OH

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98lsskunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they're vtec, but very heavy.. if i were you id go b-series you'll have to tweak with the front supension and motor mounts for an h-series </TD></TR></TABLE>

bullshit wheres your proof?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98lsskunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my bad i've never been a fan of h-series so i dont know much about them, but anyways they're to heavy for a teg i'd go with gizzer or b20 vtec somthing more productive, but thats just me</TD></TR></TABLE>

bullshit wheres your proof?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simon98h22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think dissbanding this myth is harder than getting a Oprah away from a buffet.

Does anyone have official weight figures? In a civic ? I would say the diff would be greater ... in a teg ? MAYBE 50lbs. Considering you lose all AC components for this swap and PS (most of the time)? All works the same in the wash.

My 02 cents? Doing an H23 in a Teggy would be a total waste of money. Do the H22 if your going H.

If you have the coin, go K like mentioned here ^^^^


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i like this guy the only reaason why the myth is so hard to bust is because these die hard people read it from someone that assumed it, then just took it for fact and started spreading it around. It is around this board some where and i believe its around 48lbs heavier... omg thats hella

i'd also like to say that i forgot to mention that i kept power steering on my swap so add that to the front end weight also

 

btw any University of Northwestern Ohio students here? I had dozens of witnesses when it was scaled and i remember a couple saying that they were on h-t.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmintegraxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDMJerk is right. I have done two h22 swaps into civcs and they weren't all that hard. And I do know that h22's pull very hard in hatches with just i/h/e.

As long as you get the right mounts,axles and shift linkage, its the same as most motor swaps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know they pull hard, I drive an H22 teg.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jDMJeRk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it was easy to put one in 1 in an eg and 2 in eks, im pretty sure its just as easy to do it in an integra... its just a mount kit, its not hard at all!

If its so hard then you mind as well go with the kseries idea then. Thats supposed to be hard too!</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL@just a mount kit

How can bolting another B series (the motor the integra came with in the first place) be just as easy to an H22 swap!?

H22 into an Integra:

A) You need after market mounts (you need those from B series to B series?)
B) You'll be removing AC (B to B you won't)
C) Depending on your mounts, you might be removing PS (B to B you won't)
D) Custom axles (B to B you won't)
E) The exhaust doesn't line up from H engine to DC shell
F) You need new shifter assembly and cable linkeage (not to mention expanding the shifter assembly hole in the teg. (B to B you don't)
G) You NEED a new clutch (B to B you could get by)
H) The wiring is not plug and play, soldering and schematics involved (My B to H took 30 hours in total and wiring was over 12 alone)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16hybridsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone that said that the h22 is to heavy, or that its a very heavy motor, leave the thread, and as i read in a previous thread i would like you to punch yourself in the ***** many times for spreading false info.

I'm going to be a dick head here because for one I scaled my car about a month ago and found it to weigh 2452lbs with about a 70/30 weight distribution. And for 2, I'm so sick of hearing the weight arguement about the h22 from people that have never even seen an h22 swapped car. Well guess what, i drive one, and i'm hear to tell you that the rumors are way way way over exaderated

now before you start point figures at my numbers lets think about this. Sense my car is turbo'd i've added alot more weight to the front end than just the stock h22 would, so this is defenatly going to throw the weight ratio off. So lets see we've got.

(the front end, added weight)
the turbo, cast iron manifold, wastgate, intercooler, piping, power steering and i've also got a copper 3-core radiator which is slightly heavier than stock.

(the ***, taken away weight)
Now also take into consideration that i have no spare tire or jack, no rear bumper reinforcement, no back seats, no exhaust. hhmmm that 70/30 ratio is starting to sound like it could be equaled out doesn't it

I'll find the paper i wrote the exact weights at each corner down on, and put it up for you guys just to finally kill the in the car weight rumors.

and one last vent, you obviously didn;t search hard enough cause i think i've got about 6-7 threads about my car on here. see my sig for the main one


Modified by b16hybridsol at 1:29 AM 3/3/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

THANK YOU

 

sorry ******** i guess ur right though more power to you

 

im not a fan of the h series either. they are good motors, but the downside that the damn FRM sleeves. I was going to boost my h23, but decided that boosting at 5 psi to be safe is kinda a waste. plus, now that I have a b, i could boost it easier, higher, and more reliabily on stock components.

 

i'll admit though, big motor in little car=fast car, its all power to weight ratio

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98lsskunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry ******** i guess ur right though more power to you </TD></TR></TABLE>.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98lsskunk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they're to heavy for a teg </TD></TR></TABLE>

If your talking to me, do your homework and have some facts before you run your mouth. Last reply, I'm not gonna ruin someone's thread with replies to childish statements like that.