Toyota-Honda hybrid - already started might need help along the way
the car in question is a 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 automatic. The body condition is utmost important whether it's MT or SR5 has no concern to this swap.
.......Saying that this car I got is not exactly clean, area behind the rear wheel well has the usual rust in the "bucket" and some part of the wheel well is also rusted...nothing major tho as the structural stuff are in tip top shape.
The car is going to be setup to be a daily driver (an uber fast one at that), so stripping interior, installing rollcage is out of the question. Also to clear the rally road condition in Vancouver BC, a set of rather soft but potent suspension is absolutely necessary. This car also have to look TIGHT in the end to go with the powerful engine.
The car that is going to donate the engine is a 2002model Honda S2000 that wrapped a pole in October 2004... The junk yard called the engine just been started and it's running perfectly.
As of Feb 28th 2005, the following parts are on the car:
J-blood copy bodykit
280ZX Swastika wheels
Momo steering wheel
RCi 5pt racing harness
CF hood
These parts are purchased from various places:
Cusco front tie rod bar
Megan front STB
Megan rear STB
Arospeed rear floor bar
Tanabe GF-210 springs (only about 30% stiffer than stock)
Modified Inc fiberglass fenders
Tokico HP struts and shocks 4 corners
These are things that are going to be purchased for sure:
Prothane bushings set
S2000 engine + transmission + ECU + harness + immobilizer system + loads of things
AE86 clutch and brake pedal levers and clutch master cylinder
GTS rear end
LSD (of some sort, not decided yet)
J-blood rear hatchgate (the one on car is shot)
J-blood rear quarter panel add on.
I purchased a honda FSM on CD from ebay and printed out the sections I need and here's my finding:
- the engine electricals are very simple. The wirings are all logically spliced into harnesses on the engine and nothing is hung on lil parts like ignitor/coil (the case with AE86s) making unwiring the engine for removal uber easy.
- the engine emission controls system is however very complicated and I would think pose the greatest hurdle against my project: OBDII is bullshit. I need to talk to some honda specialists to see if I can keep the OBDII bullcrap off the car while running the engine.
- The engine mounting points are very easily adapted to AE86 (or any other car) The mounting point is facing the ground and not slanted like the AE86. basically find a point on the cross member that will sit the engine in the desired position, drill a hole, space it out, weld a nut on it and the engine is fitted.
- The immobilizer system specific to NA S2000 makes owning the honda key a must to get the car going. What I plan to do is install the S2000 cylinder into the car for the "on" position (so that it clears the immob codes), and wire the stock AE86 start position into the starter. (or ****** up the genuine honda starter button for the kick of it)
- in addition to the immobilizer I can also ****** up the auto door locks + trunk release and such for the car and install it onto AE86 (that'd be dope)
Yes how can we forget pictures. Here is the baseline frame where everything that's to be done onto:

hmmmmm stock suspension and J-blood....what a combination.

6K redline!!

This is a Canadian thing I think. That early SR5 actually came with GTS interior. I had thoughts bout swapping the Sparco Sprint onto this car but I abandoned the thought simply because the stock seat is awesome balance between wrap-ability and ease of getting in and out of - especially with the bodykit sideskirts. Also this SR5 has powersteering (which I'm going to loop the lines and make it manual later)
Unfortunately the S2000 steering rack is powered by a electric motor... so there is no way I can run the powersteering from that car on this car...or run the SR5 powersteering off the S2K motor.

I got this lil gauge from local forum where honda bois swarm. look at that 9K redline!!!
This is how I'd like it to end up

First thing first the engine will be pulled from the yards this coming Thursday.
I get:
I got a list of parts I'll get:
F20C engine with all sensors and harness attached to the engine, including engine mounts
6spd transmission with all the wirings connected to it.
driveshaft
starter button
immobilizer unit
ECU
key to the car
vaccuum reservoir
EVAP canister - this I think I can use the AE86 carbon canister for the same purpose....not too sure.
I was told on top of this list I'll need a dash harness. (which sucks since all I use for the whole dash harness is the dash pod connectors....Even the OBDII plug will not be used for the car at all...)
The other thing is that if I don't want the dash to show me CEL all day long I need a standalone? what is a proper standalone to manage a normal spec S2000?? I was told AEM EMS for its PnP characteristics but other honda guys say EMS is only so-so I should look into power FC or Haltech......
....whereas I think if I can get the stock ECU running with CEL then a V-AFCII will do a stock engine wonders wouldn't it?
Tell me what you think.
.......Saying that this car I got is not exactly clean, area behind the rear wheel well has the usual rust in the "bucket" and some part of the wheel well is also rusted...nothing major tho as the structural stuff are in tip top shape.
The car is going to be setup to be a daily driver (an uber fast one at that), so stripping interior, installing rollcage is out of the question. Also to clear the rally road condition in Vancouver BC, a set of rather soft but potent suspension is absolutely necessary. This car also have to look TIGHT in the end to go with the powerful engine.
The car that is going to donate the engine is a 2002model Honda S2000 that wrapped a pole in October 2004... The junk yard called the engine just been started and it's running perfectly.
As of Feb 28th 2005, the following parts are on the car:
J-blood copy bodykit
280ZX Swastika wheels
Momo steering wheel
RCi 5pt racing harness
CF hood
These parts are purchased from various places:
Cusco front tie rod bar
Megan front STB
Megan rear STB
Arospeed rear floor bar
Tanabe GF-210 springs (only about 30% stiffer than stock)
Modified Inc fiberglass fenders
Tokico HP struts and shocks 4 corners
These are things that are going to be purchased for sure:
Prothane bushings set
S2000 engine + transmission + ECU + harness + immobilizer system + loads of things
AE86 clutch and brake pedal levers and clutch master cylinder
GTS rear end
LSD (of some sort, not decided yet)
J-blood rear hatchgate (the one on car is shot)
J-blood rear quarter panel add on.
I purchased a honda FSM on CD from ebay and printed out the sections I need and here's my finding:
- the engine electricals are very simple. The wirings are all logically spliced into harnesses on the engine and nothing is hung on lil parts like ignitor/coil (the case with AE86s) making unwiring the engine for removal uber easy.
- the engine emission controls system is however very complicated and I would think pose the greatest hurdle against my project: OBDII is bullshit. I need to talk to some honda specialists to see if I can keep the OBDII bullcrap off the car while running the engine.
- The engine mounting points are very easily adapted to AE86 (or any other car) The mounting point is facing the ground and not slanted like the AE86. basically find a point on the cross member that will sit the engine in the desired position, drill a hole, space it out, weld a nut on it and the engine is fitted.
- The immobilizer system specific to NA S2000 makes owning the honda key a must to get the car going. What I plan to do is install the S2000 cylinder into the car for the "on" position (so that it clears the immob codes), and wire the stock AE86 start position into the starter. (or ****** up the genuine honda starter button for the kick of it)
- in addition to the immobilizer I can also ****** up the auto door locks + trunk release and such for the car and install it onto AE86 (that'd be dope)
Yes how can we forget pictures. Here is the baseline frame where everything that's to be done onto:
hmmmmm stock suspension and J-blood....what a combination.
6K redline!!
This is a Canadian thing I think. That early SR5 actually came with GTS interior. I had thoughts bout swapping the Sparco Sprint onto this car but I abandoned the thought simply because the stock seat is awesome balance between wrap-ability and ease of getting in and out of - especially with the bodykit sideskirts. Also this SR5 has powersteering (which I'm going to loop the lines and make it manual later)
Unfortunately the S2000 steering rack is powered by a electric motor... so there is no way I can run the powersteering from that car on this car...or run the SR5 powersteering off the S2K motor.
I got this lil gauge from local forum where honda bois swarm. look at that 9K redline!!!
This is how I'd like it to end up

First thing first the engine will be pulled from the yards this coming Thursday.
I get:
I got a list of parts I'll get:
F20C engine with all sensors and harness attached to the engine, including engine mounts
6spd transmission with all the wirings connected to it.
driveshaft
starter button
immobilizer unit
ECU
key to the car
vaccuum reservoir
EVAP canister - this I think I can use the AE86 carbon canister for the same purpose....not too sure.
I was told on top of this list I'll need a dash harness. (which sucks since all I use for the whole dash harness is the dash pod connectors....Even the OBDII plug will not be used for the car at all...)
The other thing is that if I don't want the dash to show me CEL all day long I need a standalone? what is a proper standalone to manage a normal spec S2000?? I was told AEM EMS for its PnP characteristics but other honda guys say EMS is only so-so I should look into power FC or Haltech......
....whereas I think if I can get the stock ECU running with CEL then a V-AFCII will do a stock engine wonders wouldn't it?
Tell me what you think.
It's sad no one is here to help me -_-
I just pulled the engine harness and ECU and stuff off the car but I can't manage to pull the dash harness for the S2K
In order to run the immobilizer and gauges I need the dash harness..... anyone know how much is it to get one from Hona dealership??
I'm worried that the harness is actually inseparable with the chassis harness so it'd be big $$ to get it from anywhere....
Is there a cheaper way out? thanks.
I just pulled the engine harness and ECU and stuff off the car but I can't manage to pull the dash harness for the S2K
In order to run the immobilizer and gauges I need the dash harness..... anyone know how much is it to get one from Hona dealership??
I'm worried that the harness is actually inseparable with the chassis harness so it'd be big $$ to get it from anywhere....
Is there a cheaper way out? thanks.
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