Im looking to know what level of boost i can go up 2 on a stock JDM b16a bottom end and still be safe and use it as my dd. Im gettin Greddys 18g with e-manage (not bluebox) and im just looking for opinions on a good boost level to run on.

Thanks in advance.

I already searched 2.

 

10-12 psi with a good tune... u can get a inlinepro headgasket and run alot more cause it drops ur comp.. u can make 300hp with that

 

how much the head gasket cost and where can i get one

 

http://inlinepro.com

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992vxhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking to know what level of boost i can go up 2 on a stock JDM b16a bottom end and still be safe and use it as my dd. Im gettin Greddys 18g with e-manage (not bluebox) and im just looking for opinions on a good boost level to run on.

Thanks in advance.

I already searched 2.</TD></TR></TABLE>i tuned a stock b16 with just a greddy e-manage, 440cc inj , block gaurd and thicker headgasket installed.on 14 psi we made 344whp with 220 tq i think .there's a video and dyno graph on here somewhere.we ended up keeping the boost at 10 psi just to be safe.anywhere between 10 to 14 psi would be fine,"with the proper tuning done".

 

if u use the inline progasket u will be fin around 300whp, dynamic motorsports in dillsburg PA has done many cars like this that are running fine and for a long time I might add

 

cool thaks for all the tips. It looks like an easy thing to get and will help out alot. Thnaks again

 

dont hondata have a gasket oto

 

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I was wondering the same thing. I know they have one for teh intake manifolds to lower temp. Maybe they have a head gasket 2. And the inline pro must be a hell of a thing its 400 buck haha. which one would i need the 20 or the 30?

 

No hondata does not have a headgasket. U don't really have to use a headgasket if you get a good tune. I've been running close to two years on my stock type r motor with no problems and it has a lil bit higher compression than the jdm b16. Good tune is the key. Save the cash on the headgasket and spend it on the tune.

 

Ill have a good tune. Ive got e-manage and that will be pro. tuned allong w/ profec e-01 that im getting soon. So it will def be tuned right.

I just put alot of highway miles on my car, (bout an hour every day) and i need to be sure that it will hold up in the long run. I dont have the time/money to build up the bottom end. So im lookin to see what psi would be safe to run on my stock engine or what weekend projects that arnt to expensive would add some life/added reliability to my motor for the long haul. Such as a block guard, the head gasket, etc.

LMK what you think.

Thnaks for all the imput.

 

Well if you have a good tune a headgasket isn't gonna add anything to your set up. I will just put the money from that to something else. I drive around 75+ miles daily and still have been running well. I wouldn't really worry to much about psi level but more about power wise. To be safe i would tune to right around 260-280 area and you should be fine. When you say e-manage do you mean the greddy e-mange. If so I would maybe look into something a bit better than that if you are looking for realiablity. Not to say there are not people running fine with it, but it's not one of the top choices for engine management. If anything I would run uberdata or something similar.

 

Well then, ill just be sure to tune it right and not worry about the gasket. I might get one later, but im with you, id rather not spend the money on that. And yes i am talking about greddys emanage. Ive herd good things w/ it and i like the fact i can keep my p72 ecu. Plus w/ greddy profec e-01, ill be able to tune it pretty good and adjust evryting from within my car. Plus i got a good deal on it so thats what im going to use for right now.

Thanks for all the input, its helped me out alot.

 

umm the inoine head gasket will give the the ablilty to make more power on a stock motor ,, ur not gonna make a reliable 300hp on a completly stock motor no matter how u tune it ....... u might make 250-275 on a stock motor with a good tune.. if ur lucky.. and that is with the motor lasting, not goign boom after a few weeks or months... there are cars i know of making 300 that have been running for years.........

 

A headgasket is not going to do anything but lower the compression a couple points. How do you figure a headgasket is going to help you make more power on a stock block. The headgasket is not the limitation of a stock block, rods and pistons are. I've been daily driving my car for almost two years with no problems on a full-race t3/t67 turbo so the power is there. Not sure why you think a headgasket plays such a big role.

 

I've seen it work .. so don't tell with its not gonna do anything...... ur not gonna make 300 on a completly stock B16 with stock comp...

 

How do you think you are gonna make more whp with a headgasket. If you make 300 with 10.2.1 compression and 300 with 9.6.1 compression you are still making 300whp how is a headgasket suppose to change that. All a headgasket does is change the compression.

 

why don't u call inline pro then and tell them that there headgasket is usless then , i guess thats why so many people buy them is cause they want to waste there money ..... trying to tell u something is like talkign to a brick wall..... So u can think what u want

 

Come on now there is to be no flaming on this thread. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However facts are facts. If there is documented proof that the head gasket does do what its said to do, then its true. If not then its out in the open.

I dont c personally how it will give you more hp persay, but as far as longer life and added safety, yea i believe that (The actual topic of this thread).

I set out to find out what people thought was a safe psi to run on my stock b16, not how much whp i could get out of it. I ask for everyone to stay on topic if you please. Thank you.

 

Well fella think what you want, but if you would have said the headgasket can help to make the tuning process easier and is safer to run then i would have agreed but when you said it made more power that is incorrect. How bout you call inlinepro and ask them if there headgasket makes more power than a stock block and see what they say.

 

well the fact of the matter is that with lower compression you would be able to higher boost levels macking more power more safely with a stock block. No the head gasket doesnt make more power but it does gicve you the ability to make more power.

 

yes a headgasket does make it safer to make power like it was stated, but does not make power. From this quote[QUOTE=ReDHaTcHy97]ur not gonna make a reliable 300hp on a completly stock motor no matter how u tune itQUOTE] it clearly shows you still have alot to learn. Bottom line is, with a good tune you can have a reliable daily driven car that makes 300whp without a headgasket. Yes if you were to run headgasket it could make the tuning process easier but a headgasket does not make power.

 

Welll i think u missunderstood the point i was trying to make.its is possible to make that kinda power on a completly stock motor but i wouldn't trust it, What i meant was it would be safer to make that kinda power with the headgasket and would be safer with the lowered comp...i figured most people would of understood what i was trying to say but i guess next time i should be a little more specific.......... i never meant that the headgasket add's power , just makes it a little easier to make power safely..... So what i was tring to say is correct , that u can make more power safely with the headgasket

 

all the head gasket will do is lower the compression
lower compression just means that its easyer to tune and theres more room for error. and lower compression can run more boost without detinating and it has to run more boost to make the same about of power as a higher compreesion motor

high compression means theres less room for error on the tunning but an advantage is there there will be more power off boost

both ways can make the same amount of power

 

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high compression means theres less room for error on the tunning but an advantage is there there will be more power off boost

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thats not really true .. i wouldn't trust 300 on a completly stock motor