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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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i drive a 96 accord lx sedan, and the brakes are, to put it simply, ****. i am looking to upgrade both the front and rear assemblies to those of a wagon or v6 from the same generation. is it possible to replace my front discs and rear drums with 4 discs from a wagon or v6 accord (as well as the wagon/v6 discs)? if so, would i need to also get a wagon/v6 master cylinder to handle the difference in fluid displacement (i dont know if the discs would need more or less fluid than the drums)? if the donor car has abs, would it be worth converting mine to abs? also, are the brakes from an EX bigger than those of an LX, allowing me to use an EX donor? finally, would my stock 15" steelies fit the bigger brakes?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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i have a v6 95 sedan and did an upgrade to the 2 piston 94 legend caliper. this is what u should do...upgrade the front to a v6 rotor, which is a little bit bigger than ur i4, i think it is 11.2 inch front and also convert to disc in the rear. in addition u should get the 2 piston caliper from a 94 legend instead of stock calipers. all of these will fit perfectly under ur stock steelies of 15". as far as master cylinder i have no experience in changing that since mine is already a v6.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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that 94 legend front caliper... will it fit onto a 94 accord i4? do you know if i will need any modifications or change anything like rotor size?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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the legend brakes sound good, but would they require any modification to fit my hubs? also, do the wagon and v6 have the same 4x114.3 bolt pattern as the sedan? finally, does anyone know how labor-intensive an ABS conversion would be, or even if it would be worth doing it? thanks for any advice.


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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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I had this mod done on my '94 EX. The parts you need are 94-95 GS Acura Legend calipers (2 piston jobs) - make sure you get the mounting brackets as well (should be stamped 28T). Brembo V6 blanks and new brake pads for the legend calipers. Everything bolts up fine. The only thing you need to do is swap which side the calipers go on. The caliper that says "R" should go on the left (and vice versa)so that the bleeder iscrew s in the correct position. I had this setup for over a year with no problems and yes, my stock 15 alloys cleared just fine.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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and just to clarify , the front rotors from the SRV lude, '96 model, would be the same as the V6 accord, right? i heard u can use that too.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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would you say that the swap is worth the time, money and hassle? Was the performance of the two piston noticabely better? because my 94 stock calipers i think are goin out. does it have to be "brembo" v6 blanks? cuz i have a rotora sponsorhip that i can pick up and i would like to do this swap
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drywater2005 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would you say that the swap is worth the time, money and hassle? Was the performance of the two piston noticabely better? because my 94 stock calipers i think are goin out. does it have to be "brembo" v6 blanks? cuz i have a rotora sponsorhip that i can pick up and i would like to do this swap</TD></TR></TABLE> if u got a sponsership why not just get a big brake kit
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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i've heard this isnt such a good idea to swap. in order to get the caliper to fit, i believe you have to put the right caliper on the left side and vice versa. these two piston calipers have differently sized pistons, and flipping them around makes the brake pad bite the rotor on the leading edge of the pad. ive heard this messes up brake bias a lot, and i wouldnt think the pads would wear very evenly

IMO, it would be worth it to buy a kit that was specifically designed for the car. i know its nice to save money, but think of it....brakes save your ***, it would be a comforting thought to spend a little more knowing that the caliper was designed to work with your application. check out the pic to see what im talking about with the legend caliper.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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first of all, the two pistons are different sizes, you are correct...but in the diagram you have, you are incorrect about the pads being pushed into the rotor like that...both pistons are pushed simultaneously into the pad which contacts the rotor on a flat surface, unlike your diagram...the staggered piston size is merely for the initial "bite" of braking...

i personally have had this setup for over 2 years and have had no issues at all...the pads have never worn unevenly, nor have my rotors ever been warped in that time...
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