was just at autozone and seen the new mobil 5000, 75000 and 15000 mile oil.
busted the 15000 mile one open and looks and smells like reg. oil, any thoughts comments etc.....

 

Did you really think that your pathethic human eye could see the differences?

 

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Haha thats funny....but yeah the difference is probably at the molecular level where you cant see or smell it. It's most likely made in a lab somewhere and is a type of synthetic oil. I dont know about it though i wouldnt trust it.

 

just stick to mobil one green top and for the n/a ppl use blue top

 

It's really just a marketing gimmik for the most part. If you look in your manual, 96+ civics (maybe even earlier) no longer have a 3K oil change interval. Some higher end cars already specify 15K oil changes, and that's with whatever oil they have on hand when it's changed.

The most important thing is to change the oil according to manufacturers specs. Of course, while I was designing drivelines, I talked with many of the engineers over and over about how if a certain oil was specified, most engines could go 25K without a change (think amsoil), but for most cases, just buy regular oil and keep up on the maintenance.

 

dont be a dick... what i meant was that there was no noticable diff.(like an obvious one) mr smartypants...im runnin castrol syntec 0 30w and it has a very distinct odor and its green jerkoff:-)

 

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It smells funny and it's green, so you know it works right?

 

Not all Castrol Syntec 0W30 is green. You have the 'red label' bottle from Germany, not the 'yellow lable' produced in the USA.

The reason it's different is because it's a full synthetic group IV motor oil. All other synthetics sold at the parts stores (i.e. Syntec and Mobil 1) in this country are a group III oil, wich is not a true synthetic; but has some components derived and refined from organics.

I highly doubt this new Mobil oil is a group IV oil, when not even their synthetic is. It's either a refined conventional oil or based on Mobil 1 with some different detergents to make the claim it will last longer.

If you're using the 'red label' Syntec now, stick with it. It's probably the best oil you can buy for a Honda, and I search it out and buy as many bottles as I can when I find a store that carries it.

 

german castrol smells good because it has esters in its basestock.

have you ever smelled motul? it smells like gummy bears.

both oils contain group V basestock.

german syntec 0w-30 is probably a combination of group IV/V basestocks.

 

thanx for your educated answer...unlike this topshotta dick

 

t0pshotta owns you.

 

i dont care what oil it is, it cant be healthy to not change it for so many miles

 

I think it's all the same, just another rip off!

 

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That's not necessarily true. I was a driveline engineer for some time, and one of the problems that we had was specifiying maintenance intervals for engines / tranny / t-cases.

If the manufacturers would some way be able to specify what oil goes into an engine, and know the consumer would follow the recommendations, the maintenance intervals would be much longer. The specs in the manual is set based upon someone bringing thier car to jiffy-lube and getting bulk quality conventional oil.

Even so, some of the newer cars have oil change intervals of 15K. The new civics have oil change intervals of 7.5K on conventional oil. Using a full group IV or V synthetic, you can easily go 20K on an oil change. I change my 'red label' castrol about every 5K and test it regularly, and even at 5K it could go for much longer; and that's with heavy track duty and severe driving conditions.

Dealers and shops still specify 3K intervals, because it's a cash cow. Dealers don't make money on selling cars, they make money on maintenance and repairs.

 

is there any way for the common man to test the oil, because im using the same oil as u (red label) and I still change it at 3000 miles. If i can go longer than that i will give the fact that that oil isnt exactly cheap....

 

Go to the site 'bob is the oil guy'. I think that's where I found my oil testing kits; and I seem to remember it being about $30 to test.

I don't know what engine you're running, but I would just go with the longest oil change interval specified in your manual. I think mine is 3750 severe and 5000normal duty; so I go with 5000.

 

so are you saying this oil is bad??? i have always used royal purple before but they were out so i bought this and still plan on changing it at 3. Is it alright in YO?

 

I'm not an oil expert like everyone on here, but if the manufacturer of the oil says it's good for X amount of miles then it is. They wouldn't claim something that wasn't true, and be liable for it. Nuff said.

Oh, btw. Dealerships make almost nothing on oil changes. They figure if they can get you to come every 3 months to their dealership, it will get you to bring any and all other services done there too. They do make money on selling cars (I'm a car salesman).

 

built up y8...but i dont know what it is about my engine that the oil gets so damn hot..to the point where i had to put a cooler on. I did notice steadier pressure with the red label over syntec 5w-50..whats that all about??

 

i dont support terrorists...i wont buy iraqy oils

 

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No, I'm not saying it's bad oil at all. I'm saying that there's probably nothing too special about it, and companies roll out new products to boost sales every so often, so there's probably more gimick than science in the oil; because newer motors can go much longer than the previous 3K that everyone has drilled into thier head.

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There's a lot of factors that go into that; which aren't exactly on topic in this thread. Temp and pressure are sometimes independent of each other; but temp is usually related to cooling capacity and engine load. 50 is a pretty thick oil though. I used to run that in my old GTI motor during the summer racing season to keep the oil from breaking down; but this was back before the advanced oils we have now were available.

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Well you could do a search for Slick50 and other related products lawsuits based upon false claims. But, it is Mobil, so I don't believe that they would put any misleading claims out there based on one of thier core products; I'm just not sure how much difference there is between this new oil, and what they're already producing. Look at how many different oil products have come out over the past two years from Quaker State, Castrol etc.

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Dealerships make almost nothing on oil changes. They figure if they can get you to come every 3 months to their dealership, it will get you to bring any and all other services done there too. They do make money on selling cars (I'm a car salesman).
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Yeah, I should clarify. I didn't mean oil changes specifically, but 'maintenance' in general. If I brought my car to the dealer for the specified maintenance, a standard 3750 mile maintenance would cost almost $100. That's an oil change and alot of labor costs for 'inspecting' fluid levels and hydraulic lines. The major service schedule prices are absolutely rediculous.