guys i need some simpathy and love....

my car just got outta the shop, brand new tranny, built motor, drag turbo kit, tuned with NepTune, anyway.....ive been havign slight ignition problems, with my turbo timer fighting with me to start the car....

long story short.....went to the mall today, and got outta my car like every other day, come back almost an hour later, my car is smoking like crazy, steaming antifreeze, it was boilign like no other, turns out the turbo timer, never shut off my car. My temp gauge was on the "H" and it was just bad news, i yanked the positive off and killed it and it continued to smoke for a good 5 mins after, from the over fill resivior of the antifree and arounf the cam gears....I def prob blew my head gasket im pretty sure, and i hope the head didnt warp or anythign else internal.....

what do u guys think......im about to sell it and purchase anythign that runs, even though its not what i want, but im furious right now

this happen to anyone???

 

Whoa man...

I know how you feel... you put a ton of hard work and money into a project and something goes wrong!..

The best advice I can give is to stay in the game... don't get discouraged... maybe walk away from the car for a few days and come back with a clear head...

I get frustrated a lot when things happen to my car and I am tempted to get rid of it... but then later I am glad that I stuck through it and worked out the problems...

DONT LET THE CAR OWN YOU!!

 

Damn, that sucks. I would help you out and buy your tranny in a second... but too bad shipping that thing to Hawaii would cost as much as the tranny... Good luck, REBUILD!

 

You are a dick. I doubt his engine needs to be rebuilt. Seems like everyone on freaking honda-tech just replies to almost any problem with "rebuild". None of you are mechanics so don't try and diagnose his car.

 

my car could idle for an hour and not over heat, thats the point of the turbo timer albeit maybe not for that long but regardless. Besides the fact it kept running, what happend to your fans? your coolant? thermostat? this isn't to blame on the timer, something else is wrong if just idling it overheated especially on a honda.

 

yea the only time my prelude ever overheated was when it was low on coolent cause of a leaking raditor. so good luck and dont get rid of it cause your pissed it should all work out for the better

 

thanks guys...........as far as some questions, i ran to a honda dealership service center like 3 mins down the road, thank god, and bough some antifreeze, im gogin back ina few hours after everythign has cooled to put the antifreeze back in, its probably bone dry, and check for fluids leakign under the car, then if i can get it to the honda dealership.....thats all i can think of as of now.....

i dunno why the idle overheated it, the heat was on low i think, and i never have touched the cooling system?? busted thermostat maybe, i really have no idea......

again thanks for everythign guys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are a dick. I doubt his engine needs to be rebuilt. Seems like everyone on freaking honda-tech just replies to almost any problem with "rebuild". None of you are mechanics so don't try and diagnose his car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would you rather I tell him to give up, like I told your parents to do with you? How can you doubt that his engine needs to be rebuilt? You think it's in perfect shape after that incident? You don't need to be a mechanic to know that a engine overheating for an hour will have a blown headgasket, at the least. "Rebuild" doesn't mean to go out and get new pistons, rods, etc.

Cliffnotes: STFU jnet

 

How do you know for sure that it was overheating for an hour? All he said was that he came back an hour later and it was overheating. It could've been overheating for only a few minutes. I've left my car on for an hour and it overheated like anything and its still perfectly fine.

My advice to him: take it to a mechanic you trust, have them do compression/leakdown on the motor and make sure everything is fine. I'd do that before even starting the car again. It's worth the $75 to have it towed to your mechanic. Whatever you do, don't give up.

 

Don't you realize that whether it was an hour or not, isn't the point? He doesn't know either, right? Better to assume the worst and take precautions, than to turn a blind eye and just hop right in, thinking everything's fine. That's a risky assumption to convince yourself that it was overheating for a minute and everything's fine, when he said himself that he was away for an hour.

 

the thing is id do the same, but the only one i trust here in baltimore is Honda. I live in NJ and go to school in baltimore, so all my trusted mechanics are not even in the state.......anyone know any trusted ones close to the 21210

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude994e &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the thing is id do the same, but the only one i trust here in baltimore is Honda. I live in NJ and go to school in baltimore, so all my trusted mechanics are not even in the state.......anyone know any trusted ones close to the 21210</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shoot me a PM I work in baltimore county (21117) been working for honda almost 5years now. Sorry about your problem I know it sucks ***.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

DONT LET THE CAR OWN YOU!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

i would agree with that fully!!! like he said just chill out for a while and go back with a clear head. good luck!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't you realize that whether it was an hour or not, isn't the point? He doesn't know either, right? Better to assume the worst and take precautions, than to turn a blind eye and just hop right in, thinking everything's fine. That's a risky assumption to convince yourself that it was overheating for a minute and everything's fine, when he said himself that he was away for an hour.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, he already indicated that he probably needs a new head gasket so logically he would have everything looked over while changing that. Saying that he needs a rebuild is stupid. Just keep your mouth shut next time.

 

first of all just because your car over heated and blew collant everywhere doesn't mean you blew your head gasket. if the car got hot enough to warp the head or cause any other damage, you will know when you try to start it back up. smell the exhaust and see if there is a sweet smell to it.

the reason the car probably over heated was because some *** clow installed the turbo timer wrong and the car wasn't runing as "normal" so the rad fan never came on. or your idle was unusually high. i know with my car i have my idle set really high so if i just let it sit there the car eventually gets pretty hot even with the rad fan runing.

 

the fans can turn on with the key out of the car, they always have power....so thats not the problem......

idling for an hour will let your car overheat easily, it relies on fresh air blowing over the radiator to cool down the coolant......between two cars and probably with one in front of you.....i think we can see the lack of air....

i bet i know whats wrong with the turbo timer wiring, i did one in a civic.......i dont remember the exact wiring on it, but if you pm me with a link to the wiring diagram your brand (has to be your brand) turbo timer uses, i will find you the problem.....

your block is probably fine....you will want to get a new thermo and possibly some hoses depending on just how hot it all got.....

since you said it smoked around the cam gears....you might actually have blown the head gasket, but dont put the water pump out as an option, the seal could have gone on that.....you also have the water pipe running back there, you should check all that before you pull the head.......

definitely get a whiff of the exhaust, well first make sure it will start, and then figure out if you are burning some coolant....

get back to us on it, dont give up....

 

It sounds like you have a nice set up, one that I am dreaming of, keep at it man. Whats another couple hundred after the couple thousand you already put into it. GOOD LUCK

 

update as of last ngiht at about 11PM, sorry had two midterms to cram for, this is first chance i get to post, anyway...i went back to my car. and before i left it at 6 when it overheated i ran to honda, 3 mins away amd purchased a gallon of antifreeze, so got back to it round 1030 and everything seemed ok. I couldnt tell what kind of fluids were on the ground, it was in a parkign garage and millions of cars had leaked **** there. I opened the rad cap to find it completely destroyed, haha, the rubber washer and spring and lil metal wahser/retainer, were all separated, and the antirfreze was gunk-like all over the overflow resivior. SO, filled the rad back up with the fresh juice. it took nearly the entire jug, took out the over flow take, and it was filled up way past the max line, poured that out(dont tell anyone) and put a lil remainder in the tank. The plasitc cap for the overflow tank, that permits overflow, actually melted so it served no purpose routing the antifreeze into the overflow, the hole melted closed. So i minused the cap and rigged the black rubber tube striaght into the tank, i wedged it in without kinking the tube and it stayed OK, so now, battery back on. and here we go, started it up, started up and ran for 30 seconds, the amount of time before that damn turbo timer shut it off cause my ignition is messed up(i think recall) oh yeah, forgot to mention it was due into honda at 7AM this morning to get that checked out, lol oh well. So try again, and this time it starts up normal, without engaging turbo timer , i let it run for like 10 mins, keepign an eye on everythign and anything......it started to get a lil hot, so i blasted heat, and it plateaued out at the needle being about half way between H and C. So i managed to drive back to my parking spot at school, with much ease, no smell, no bog, and it appeared to not be leaking anything when i got to park it again. Tests are in very near future so ill keep everyone updated. Not to jinx myself but , i think that church every sunday, def paid off a lil

GUYS( and ladies)........thanx SO much for all the love and relaxing words, it helped emensly......take care

 

Great to hear that. Good luck when you get it tested

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uncle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, he already indicated that he probably needs a new head gasket so logically he would have everything looked over while changing that. Saying that he needs a rebuild is stupid. Just keep your mouth shut next time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you even bother to read everything? Read my second reply and STFU.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you even bother to read everything? Read my second reply and STFU.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh yeah, I forgot this idiotic statment you posted earlier:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Would you rather I tell him to give up, like I told your parents to do with you? How can you doubt that his engine needs to be rebuilt? You think it's in perfect shape after that incident? You don't need to be a mechanic to know that a engine overheating for an hour will have a blown headgasket, at the least. "Rebuild" doesn't mean to go out and get new pistons, rods, etc.

Cliffnotes: STFU jnet</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rebuild means at least new bearings, piston rings, seals.......

What the hell else would it mean?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't need to be a mechanic to know that a engine overheating for an hour will have a blown headgasket, at the least. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong.

You also have no idea how long the car was overheating either.

Did you come here from club SI?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uncle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rebuild means at least new bearings, piston rings, seals.......

What the hell else would it mean?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what the English language defines it to be:
Main Entry: re·build
Pronunciation: (")rE-'bild
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): re·built /-'bilt/; -build·ing
transitive senses
1 to restore to a previous state &lt;rebuild inventories&gt;

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uncle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wrong.

You also have no idea how long the car was overheating either.

Did you come here from club SI?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't you realize that whether it was an hour or not, isn't the point? He doesn't know either, right? Better to assume the worst and take precautions, than to turn a blind eye and just hop right in, thinking everything's fine. That's a risky assumption to convince yourself that it was overheating for a minute and everything's fine, when he said himself that he was away for an hour.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dand39 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exactly what the English language defines it to be:
Main Entry: re·build
Pronunciation: (")rE-'bild
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): re·built /-'bilt/; -build·ing
transitive senses
1 to restore to a previous state &lt;rebuild inventories&gt;</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please, save it. You said something that made no sense at all and now you think an engine rebuild means something other than what I posted earlier? What would YOU say an engine rebuild would consist of? I think that your answer may disagree with 99% of the consensus on this board but, fire away champ.

Saying that something must be wrong with his car is completely false.

Saying that he should check everything over to be safe is something totally different than what you said above. That would be the only smart thing that you have said in this whole thread.


Modified by uncle at 2:50 PM 2/23/2005

 

That's a hell of a relief. Good luck man and I know what it feels like when you invest so much money into your project and something goes wrong......Glad you hung in there.

 

This isn't GDD...now that we've settled what "rebuild" means, why don't we all calm down and be happy that this guy's **** hasn't been destroyed by somebody else doing a shitty job installing a turbo timer?

For the record, uncle is right.