Since the other one got locked, and I still think the bike itself bears discussion, here we go. Keep the "You're a poseur" bench racing crap to yourselves.

I wonder why we haven't seen a 'Busa replacement, but here is my theory.

Triumph, I believe, was working on a superbike in the vein of a Busa. More potent than the litrebikes, a high-speed bullet that looked a bit more like a super-sport than a 'Busa. Something like a 1200cc four. But, they shelved it due to concerns about lawsuits because it was just so damned fast.

Is that why a new 'Busa isn't out already? Is that why the Blackbird was shelved? How much faster can these things go without representing a class-action or wrongful-death suit waiting to happen?

 

Didn't the Japanese companies have a "gentleman's agreement" to cap the top-speed battle before the government intervened? That's why the ZX12R from Kawasaki did not blow the other two (XX and Busa) out of the water.

Instead, these bikes became a different category than "supersport"...they turned into "hypersport." Not as focused for handling, but still somewhat capable. More for grand touring at high speeds.

I think the companies saw that they would eventually reach a dead-end. The market for a large, fast bike in the vein of the XX, Busa, and 12R isn't as lucrative as the middleweights or the liter-bikes. The aforementioned three are simply halo bikes - similar to what Acura has with their NSX. Not to make a huge profit (if any, in the case of the NSX), but more for representation of what the manufacturer is capable of achieving.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't the Japanese companies have a "gentleman's agreement" to cap the top-speed battle before the government intervened? That's why the ZX12R from Kawasaki did not blow the other two (XX and Busa) out of the water.

Instead, these bikes became a different category than "supersport"...they turned into "hypersport." Not as focused for handling, but still somewhat capable. More for grand touring at high speeds.

I think the companies saw that they would eventually reach a dead-end. The market for a large, fast bike in the vein of the XX, Busa, and 12R isn't as lucrative as the middleweights or the liter-bikes. The aforementioned three are simply halo bikes - similar to what Acura has with their NSX. Not to make a huge profit (if any, in the case of the NSX), but more for representation of what the manufacturer is capable of achieving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you nailed it right on the head there....

 

i think you all just misinterpreted what Hman was saying.

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the way i interpreted this is, as long as you're not going ***** out in the turns, the busa can handle the turns just as well as any SS

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The aforementioned three are simply halo bikes - similar to what Acura has with their NSX. Not to make a huge profit (if any, in the case of the NSX), but more for representation of what the manufacturer is capable of achieving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would disagree with that on one critical point. The 'Busa and Blackbird are well-rounded high-speed tourers...like GT bikes.

A "Halo Machine" like you described would be something like the new Ducati V-four motogp streetbike.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would disagree with that on one critical point. The 'Busa and Blackbird are well-rounded high-speed tourers...like GT bikes.

A "Halo Machine" like you described would be something like the new Ducati V-four motogp streetbike.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I couldn't come up with a better word. I realized "halo" was wrong. Maybe this thread will show up if someone does a Google search for Xbox.

 

lol...no, I understand perfectly what you meant. You're saying that the 'Busa is to Suzuki what the new GT40 is to Ford...a machine that exists simply to show off what the manufacturer can build.

I'm disagreeing, on the grounds that the bike offers the speed of a litrebike but the comfort and 'practicality' of a touring bike. Plus, the 'Busa's technology isn't really anything special to my knowledge, just a big motor stuffed into a somewhat sporty body.

 

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"Sporty body" - I don't know about that.

 

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sporty body = aerodynamic ??
i dunno

 

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I did say somewhat, lol.

I think that the 'Busa's riding position is probably a little less aggressive than my SV's. I could be wrong, but it doesn't strike me as a cruiser.

 

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Triumph, I believe, was working on a superbike in the vein of a Busa. More potent than the litrebikes, a high-speed bullet that looked a bit more like a super-sport than a 'Busa. Something like a 1200cc four. But, they shelved it due to concerns about lawsuits because it was just so damned fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.motorcycledaily.com...3.htm
the triumph rocket III is supposed to be faster than a busa 0-60
but that's obviously not what you're talking about

 

I still say i would love to have a busa! Not to go 200 but to have a powerful bike that has a sporty style that i can cruze on... i don't track or drag mu knee, i like to ride! but not enough to ride a chopper or a HD lol, not my style

 

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Triumph, I believe, was working on a superbike in the vein of a Busa. More potent than the litrebikes, a high-speed bullet that looked a bit more like a super-sport than a 'Busa. Something like a 1200cc four. But, they shelved it due to concerns about lawsuits because it was just so damned fast.

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I'm not sure about Triumph, perhaps you may be refering to the BMW K1200S that is due out? Before a lot of the specs were released it was being hailed as a busa beater.

http://www.facethepower.com