Aluminum used in Moroso oil pans?

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Default Aluminum used in Moroso oil pans?

I was too busy at work today to call Mororso myself.

Does anyone know the type of aluminum used for Moroso's Honda oil pans? I have an H22 pan that I need to add some baffles to in order to use it for a road racing application. I'd like to pick the same alloy, if at all possible.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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id says it is 6061 since it is a weldable alloy
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Yes, I agree about the 6061. You can weld it fine with 4043. If you're a stickler for strength, go with 5356...but it doesn't weld quite as well..and you really won't need that.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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it's going to be either 3003 or maybe 5052 at hamburgers we used 3003 both weld with 4043 filler wire 6061 is not a good alloy for a pan and would tend to crack allot due the vibrations within the pan plus its to hard to work with when bending and the cost is higher 5052 is a great alloy for body panels and it welds really well 3003 is softer and easier to work with
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KFMRC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's going to be either 3003 or maybe 5052 at hamburgers we used 3003 both weld with 4043 filler wire 6061 is not a good alloy for a pan and would tend to crack allot due the vibrations within the pan plus its to hard to work with when bending and the cost is higher 5052 is a great alloy for body panels and it welds really well 3003 is softer and easier to work with
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Modified by KFMRC at 9:46 PM 2/19/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

The alloy used is most likely 6061. It would probably start out in an O condition for formability. Then it would be welded. Finally, it gets heat treated to a T6 condition for strength. Since you must heat treat 6061 after welding anyway, using an O condition to start out with allows small radius bends without cracking the material.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Good points guys...I wasn't thinking much about 6061 being a bit more prone to cracking when bending.

I still think I'd go with 4043 weld wire though.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Engloid I agree and no matter what it is made of 4043 is the correct filler rod.

? building a pan in O and heat treating it afterwards I thought we were talking about a relatively inexpensive oil pan and not space shuttle parts The pan rails are normally made of 6061 -t6 but the rest is usually 3003 which is very easy to work and tolerates the vibrations well
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