K Sorry for another one of this Random Questions... Well I plan on buying a cam for my Rex but I know it's non-vtec but yet i want a cam that people will know i got some power in my little SOHC. I mean to were it Kicks pretty hard.. Any advice? PLUS i don't plan on doing any Head work right now.. I jus want to buy a Cam. and Slap that mug on in...

 

Oh Yeah I was thinking about the Stage 2 Exospeed Cam..

Pros? Cons?

 

I've heard good things about the Exospeed cam, belive you're talkin about the SR909.
What other mods do you have? Cus a cam wont make much power if its not properly complimented with other components. I have a Delta 272 camshaft and I love it. Added noticeable power throughout the powerban and really improved my top end. Just added a skunk2 intake manifold and it improved a whole lot more. Best part about it is that the cam was only 100 bux. 125 -$30 core charge =

 

i'm about to get an SR 909 looks great and nothing but good reviews

 

http://www.crower.com/ crower cams

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_Control &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.crower.com/ crower cams</TD></TR></TABLE>

Does Crower make a no-tec D series cam? I couldnt find one on their site...

 

I am also researching cams for my project.

*suscribe*

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slypest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am also researching cams for my project.

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Whats the car gonna be for? Drag? AutoX? Are you going forced induction or NA? Do you plan on doing headwork? All kinds of things u gotta take into consideration b4 picking a cam.
This might help you kinda see how different cams compare.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=427814

 

get a cheap sohc zc cam. i have several.

 

Thanx for the Feedback... Well I want it to be Drag but yet still handle some twist and turns...

The Delta Cam... Where can i find them and What's the Specs on your cam Vs the SR909?

Mods in my Car now are : CAI , Header, Exhaust and Modded ECU. However When Changing my Head Gasket i Cleaned out all the Ports and you know juss back to shine the Top of the Pistons.. actually made a huge difference... I would advise That.

 

http://www.deltacam.com . They have a phone number listed on the site and you call em up, tell em what you're lookin for and they'll recommend a cam for you.
The specs should be listed on that link i put up earlier. Companies like to keep quiet about their designs, so for Delta, only teh avertised duration and max list were posted. I think Exospeed gave more info on the overlap and such.
The cam is like a stage 2 1/2 if that makes any sense lol.

 

Our SR909 cam is a low maintenance street cam with great performance.
We also have our Race A6, which has a higher lift and duraton than the SR909. Its good for a basic bolt on setup, but works the best in something with a built head.

we also have our Stg4 A6. its a wilder idle and isnt for the weak. lopey idle but with mean 8K+ RPM pull.

We also have 2 other stages available with higher lifts, but they are made on a custom and case by case basis only.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Our SR909 cam is a low maintenance street cam with great performance.
We also have our Race A6, which has a higher lift and duraton than the SR909. Its good for a basic bolt on setup, but works the best in something with a built head.

we also have our Stg4 A6. its a wilder idle and isnt for the weak. lopey idle but with mean 8K+ RPM pull.

We also have 2 other stages available with higher lifts, but they are made on a custom and case by case basis only.</TD></TR></TABLE>

With the 90mm stroke of the D16's have you guys done daily driven engines with 8k redlines?

What kinds of engine work was done to them to make you guys feel comfortable hitting 8krpms daily?

balanced rotating assembly + upgraded valvetrain?

I just want to hear from experience...so many D guys are afraid to rev their built motors above 7500...

Thanks,
Vince

 

Yup Vince,
I personally had our own sr909 and Race A6 in our Exospeed Stage 3 head package in my daily driver for 3 years.
HF CRX, stock d16a6 block, unmilled head, y8 manifold, 8K redline everyday. This particulr motor at its best had 142hp to the wheels.
13.6@99mph got 35mpg. this was in 1998

You just have to have a good head work with matching valvetrain to handle the cams.
It doesnt take much to build up the A6, I see alot of people just go overboard on some parts that are not necessary.

We may not be as cheap as Delta Cams, but our cam WERE tested and used on the streets by us. We had designed the heads to work well with our cams and its the experience of the product that you pay for.

The D16A6 can handle higher RPM if built right. Our own D16a6 project that we did last year was designed with a redline of 9300RPM.
It'll be back this year after we rebuild it this month.
It had some good numbers on the dyno but unfortunately, we had wiring problems in the beginning and it had a defective crank pulley that had slowly destroyed the bearings and the crank. Eventually it fell off the car during a run end in the year and thats when we found out.
Wil

 

Anything past stage 1 = upgrade ur valve train

Delta cams are good regrinds for the price.
Comp (zex) cams (i dunno if they make them for non vtec, probably not)

You really need to research where u want to make the power.

Jon

 

Hmm... I'm In Between Delta Cams and Exospeed. I hear good things about Exospeed so i'm leaning towards you guys. Well Someone Posted Anything after Stage 1 you should do some head work.... Well if Money grew in my Pocket i would but since i'm trying to go Low budget.. Can i get the SR909 Without Doing Extra Mods? That goes for the Same for the Delta.

I juss have the Basic... Intake, HEade, Exhaust, and ECU

 

And also my main goal is to be at lease in the 13's..

 

Wil, how high would you say a stock a6 block can be rev'd before you run into problems, and what would be needed to make it safe for say 8k daily driven? Like what would be the bare minimum needed to be done to achieve this safely?
I'm in the process of slowly building a head that can will make power at higher rpms, but at the same time i have to account for the strength of the block.
Thanks!

 

My Car has no Head work Done.. and Daily i take my car up to 7800 RPm Easily No Probs. And Yes... My Tach isn't Off!

 

Why do u rev to 7800? Are you actually making power up there on a stock cam?
The folks at Delta told me the stock valvetrain was fine if you plan to retain the stock rev limit. But once u get past that, you start runnin into valve-float problems and need new ish.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup Vince,
I personally had our own sr909 and Race A6 in our Exospeed Stage 3 head package in my daily driver for 3 years.
HF CRX, stock d16a6 block, unmilled head, y8 manifold, 8K redline everyday. This particulr motor at its best had 142hp to the wheels.
13.6@99mph got 35mpg. this was in 1998

You just have to have a good head work with matching valvetrain to handle the cams.
It doesnt take much to build up the A6, I see alot of people just go overboard on some parts that are not necessary.

We may not be as cheap as Delta Cams, but our cam WERE tested and used on the streets by us. We had designed the heads to work well with our cams and its the experience of the product that you pay for.

The D16A6 can handle higher RPM if built right. Our own D16a6 project that we did last year was designed with a redline of 9300RPM.
It'll be back this year after we rebuild it this month.
It had some good numbers on the dyno but unfortunately, we had wiring problems in the beginning and it had a defective crank pulley that had slowly destroyed the bearings and the crank. Eventually it fell off the car during a run end in the year and thats when we found out.
Wil</TD></TR></TABLE>

Great thanks Wil! I'm putting down 160whp/120wtq with my N/A y8 only revving to 7500, fully balanced/rebuilt by me. Looks like i'll be moving it up! I never really checked into what the big guys cars revved too because everyone gets nervous with our stroke.

Vince

 

Vince,

the 90mm stroke isnt someting to be worried about.
We have Turbo cars revving to 8200 RPM street driven all the time.

We're actually planning on building a street SOHC to go after the Turbo 1/4 record. Its still in the planning stages right now since we have a full schedule ahead of us, but we're looking to get it done by end of the year.
We're looking to rev that thing at least 8500rpm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89SiPimpin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wil, how high would you say a stock a6 block can be rev'd before you run into problems, and what would be needed to make it safe for say 8k daily driven? Like what would be the bare minimum needed to be done to achieve this safely?
I'm in the process of slowly building a head that can will make power at higher rpms, but at the same time i have to account for the strength of the block.
Thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have to evaluate the condition of the block you are using. Of course, not every block can be taken up that high and expect to last long. But if you have a good condition block that you are using, I'm sure it will last a prety good time with proper maintenance. Like I said about my old motor. took it to 8K all the time with the stock block for like 3 yrs 100K miles. and on top of that Im sure that block already had 50-60K miles on it. Raced 3-4 times a week and took it out to events every month so it was pretty beat up on.
We're not making loads of power with the D16 so im sure those rods will hold. What will matter is if the block will spin a bearing or detonate. thats your main concern about these blocks.

 

my friend has web cams in his dohc zc and they made a huge differance. never tried one on a sohc, but there good quality, there located in riverside, ca. dont know the web address but you can search web cams. just make sure your kids are away, and jelouse GFs. they might think you looking for web cams and not "web cams" camshafts

 

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We're not making loads of power with the D16 so im sure those rods will hold. What will matter is if the block will spin a bearing or detonate. thats your main concern about these blocks.

</TD></TR></TABLE>I've never had any bottom end issues with my old built-n-juiced y7 and my current built y8 which has been around for almost 3 years and 50K with the same crank, bearings, rods-n-rod bolts, etc.

the only issues were tune related pistons breaks, on the y7 it was wrist pin bosses mainly because the builder was a supreme retard, and on the y8 it used to be the ring lands, till i went with the thicker Apexi HG.

About the non-vtec cam, I know Wil is a good guy, so his **** might be a good choice, but i also would look into consulting BISI for a nice Web cam grind....DO NOT GO TO WEB CAM WITHOUT HITTING UP BISI; I tried several times to get a good cam from Web and each time i got boned with a shitty grind. It seems they are among those who bone the layman and hook up the sponsored. Unfortunately, there are no fresh billet options that i know of for the non-vtec d's....

Sucks Gude is a supreme flake and his customer service is the worst EVER! because he really has a good formula for a regrind....

Wil, do you have any graphs of the non-vtec d that made 142?